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934 nigga your comments worth the weight of a feather.

Remove all foreign interventions and let everyone be for himself.

You cannot hide inside a tank and claim to be macho.

Like Jaidi posted, its no wonder Somalis have never been united

Kenya wants Jubbaland for itself with the support of the western governments. That fact should be understood before any thing else. It is tragic Somalis sees every thing through clannish lenses. I mean how can any one explain Kenya's efforts in international forums to limit the Somali coast to 12 miles? The support the French and other countries are giving is all based on their oil comanies wanting to explore Somalia's continental shelf. And in the west, their establishments have come to the realizations that their economic interests would never be guaranteed by a stable Somali government in the future.

Personally, it reminds me how we lost the Ogaden region in 1945. First, an American oil company, Sinclair, has found an oil well in Shilabo. Second, since that region was under British government protectorate and the Somali independence movement was in full move, the British and American government have dicussed how to best gurantee their interest. They came to the realization that an independent Somali government on this region will not guarantee their interest. This is how Ethiopia under Haile-Salassie came to the picture, and the Ogaden Somali region was handed over to him. Today, Jubaland is going along a similar path.

udun wrote:Kenya wants Jubbaland for itself with the support of the western governments. That fact should be understood before any thing else. It is tragic Somalis sees every thing through clannish lenses. I mean how can any one explain Kenya's efforts in international forums to limit the Somali coast to 12 miles? The support the French and other countries are giving is all based on their oil comanies wanting to explore Somalia's continental shelf. And in the west, their establishments have come to the realizations that their economic interests would never be guaranteed by a stable Somali government in the future.

Personally, it reminds me how we lost the Ogaden region in 1945. First, an American oil company, Sinclair, has found an oil well in Shilabo. Second, since that region was under British government protectorate and the Somali independence movement was in full move, the British and American government have dicussed how to best gurantee their interest. They came to the realization that an independent Somali government on this region will not guarantee their interest. This is how Ethiopia under Haile-Salassie came to the picture, and the Ogaden Somali region was handed over to him. Today, Jubaland is going along a similar path.

Nin soomaalia baad tahay

FAH1223 wrote:Like Jaidi posted, its no wonder Somalis have never been united

Some Somalis believe the neighboring Countries are helping one Clan against the other and is creating a Clan state for them

The_Emperior5 wrote:

FAH1223 wrote:Like Jaidi posted, its no wonder Somalis have never been united

Some Somalis believe the neighboring Countries are helping one Clan against the other and is creating a Clan state for them

Then why do you run for Ictiraf to Ethiopia?
Why did you guys consult them when you wanted to fight PL?

udun wrote:Kenya wants Jubbaland for itself with the support of the western governments.

Today, Jubaland is going along a similar path.

And what in the world is wrong with that? The greatest thing to happen to Jubbaland will be to be annexed by Kenya.

Honestly, how longer can Somalia remain without a government? How longer can we remain underdeveloped? Do you people think Al Shabab will negotiate? Never,

Sometimes you must pick the lesser evil, at least with TFG we will have security and direct foreign investment, with Shabab there will be sanctions and embargoes forever. At least with TFG we can recreate vital institutions and rebuild the country

Create a government first then we can switch sides and play politics, now we nothing but pawns.

Voltage wrote:Oxident, it is simply unbecoming to compare the civilized Kenyan Bantu to the Ethiopian Habesh who are just as uncivilized in modernity as the Somali. Comparing support for Kenyan involvement to Ethiopian interference is a false equivalence. The distinction has to be made on pragmatic grounds.

I see where you are coming from with your first reply to my original post but i just to highlight this part, I have seen you on many instances belittling and showing this inferiority complex and somehow believing the Bantu in Kenya is superior to us. I have no clue and dont want to judge on how your parent's raised you but mine always told me you are Somali born in the West but never forget who you are and that we Somali are the Shit.

King-of-Awdal wrote:I see where you are coming from with your first reply to my original post but i just to highlight this part, I have seen you on many instances belittling and showing this inferiority complex and somehow believing the Bantu in Kenya is superior to us. I have no clue and dont want to judge on how your parent's raised you but mine always told me you are Somali born in the West but never forget who you are and that we Somali are the Shit.

The difference between you and I is if my parents tell me Santa Claus is real, I don't believe it when I reach a certain age.

Voltage wrote:

King-of-Awdal wrote:I see where you are coming from with your first reply to my original post but i just to highlight this part, I have seen you on many instances belittling and showing this inferiority complex and somehow believing the Bantu in Kenya is superior to us. I have no clue and dont want to judge on how your parent's raised you but mine always told me you are Somali born in the West but never forget who you are and that we Somali are the Shit.

The difference between you and I is if my parents tell me Santa Claus is real, I don't always believe it.

Who said Santa Claus is not Real, he did bring my first bike when i was 5

Laughter aside, if you have any rudimentary background in psychology, you would know one counter-reaction of an inferiority complex is to project something totally different than what you feel. You try to make up for it. Rather I have the luxury of being honest because of the nature of my own confidence and even as a Somali. No matter how uncivilized I think they are, I neither deny nor disown my people. I simply want them to improve.

Our Darod friends are funny bunch, they want to bend over for Bantus and justify to us why they have their pants down. Why do we care, your getting shafted anyway.

It's funny those who write essays on how their ancestors fought the White man to a stand still are today at the forefront cheering for Bantu colonisation.

Username1 wrote:It's funny those who write essays on how their ancestors fought the White man to a stand still are today at the forefront cheering for Bantu colonisation.

Besides Bantu being my African brother of whom cooperation will be of mutual interest to both of us, you seem to be clutching at straws. Yes we fought European colonialism, and yes I now advocate to accept African brotherhood in this globalizing new world order.

war mad ka deysid!!!