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Re: What was wrong with Aidid?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:19 am
by waryaa
lol@awahab - no he clearly said made the announcement of the new military coup. Not necessarily pro coup but doing his job. Yes, he talked about how he and a/yusuf saw it.
Re: What was wrong with Aidid?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:23 am
by Hyperactive
waryaa, you wont get balanced analyze with somalis. there is always pro and against. everything somalis take it personal, even if it's past or history!
Re: What was wrong with Aidid?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:23 am
by ina aadan
Dawlad dhisid muuna ku tala jirin e waxaa ku jirtay ERYA,ERYA.

Re: What was wrong with Aidid?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:25 am
by AbdiWahab252
Voltage,
What civil unrest after the assassination ? The 1969 coup was a major setback for Somalia. The corrupt civilian government was able to defuse out right civil war by allowing clans to exercise their intentions through real politick in parliament. The 1969 coup squashed that opportunity and the game got played using guns and rebel movements because the opportunities for change through the ballot box got squashed.
Waryaa,
Aidid did no such thing. He got locked up and did his time for not being procoup. I only regret PM Cigaal decided to dilly dally as he looked for another MJ to replace Abdirashid.
Re: What was wrong with Aidid?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:29 am
by waryaa
hyperactive wrote:waryaa, you wont get balanced analyze with somalis. there is always pro and against. everything somalis take it personal, even if it's past or history!
waa u firsaday, somalis treat what their parents or tribesmen tell them as divine truth. We don't have the capability to go against tolka when it comes to reasoning.
awhab, did you read the book he co-wrote with that Indian professor?
Re: What was wrong with Aidid?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:35 am
by AbdiWahab252
Waryaa,
I received two copies from the man himself. He was a very pleasant, soft spoken man. I would say that he and MSB were a cut above the next generation of unprincipled vagabonds who claim to be politicians.
Re: What was wrong with Aidid?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:13 am
by waryaa
awahab, sorry about my ignorance lakin when did Ali Mahdi get in the picture? who armed him? was Mogadishu divided when daroods tried to come back?
Re: What was wrong with Aidid?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:46 am
by 2ndtoNone
the manifesto back stabbed him
Re: What was wrong with Aidid?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:01 am
by BlackVelvet
This guy had dialogue with the elders, this is the discovery that I find most amusing. He talked they listened, they talked, he listened...Somehow I always thought he was a one man show who didn't give a damn what anyone else said.
Re: What was wrong with Aidid?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:28 am
by melo
Lust for power and his kin's betrayal.
Re: What was wrong with Aidid?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:29 am
by Executive
Aidiid = Biiliqo, moryaan nimo, rape, murder, destruction, anarchy, greed and tribalism.
What did you expect to go right?
Re: What was wrong with Aidid?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:35 am
by Hyperactive
BlackVelvet wrote:This guy had dialogue with the elders, this is the discovery that I find most amusing. He talked they listened, they talked, he listened...Somehow I always thought he was a one man show who didn't give a damn what anyone else said.
depends who you ask , as usual somalis are, i heard he wasnt as you described. he wants like other somalis to remove siyad bare. but was no clear plan all rebels agreed upon.
Re: What was wrong with Aidid?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:45 am
by BlackVelvet
Hyper it is true everyone is told a different story.
From the video I watched that someone posted, it did seem like there was a plan, he had a plan but those he made plans with turned against him and when they did he decided to fight back instead of walking away or engaging in a dialogue. About him speaking to the elders that is something he is known to have done case in point, the video. Like AW mentioned before, it was also the reason he came back to defend Mogadishu, the elders asked him to. So that part if fact. There were also meetings he attended with people in the community where they were trying to find ways to move forward but it was sabotaged and a lot of people got killed. Since a qaraabo of mine got killed in one such meeting, that is also fact.
I too grew up hearing stuff about Ceydiid so I always thought of him as a scary ring leader type of character but growing up you realise there was a lot more to the man.
Re: What was wrong with Aidid?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:49 am
by Executive
BV
The "elders" and "community" you speak of, are his clan elders and his tribe, they were engaged in the tribal war too.
Re: What was wrong with Aidid?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:51 am
by Hyperactive
wad ko wareeri if you try to look reason behind somali clan politics!!
nin walba qabilkeesa bo jeebka ko sita and waive the flag. wa dad funny ah.
i'll be honest , fist time i heard was in somalinet. i didnt pay attention until few months and started to ask my peeps and family friends. no facts. every one tells you his or her opinion and how effected them.