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I see no mention of Azania in the agreement, the Prime Minister has confirmed the official position of all sides.Kenya trained the TFG troops who were given the set objective of liberating the Jubba regions, those troops were collected by the elders of the region under the auspices of Prof.Gandi who went on to hold consultative meetings(30 altogether) with Politicians,Elders and Civil society groups hailing from the Jubba regions upon which the state of Azania was declared without contradicting the TFG Charter which supports the formation of any state consisting of two or more regions.The position of Sharif is irrelevant on the issue as he has no authoritative control over any of the entities in the Jubba regions(Lower Jubba to be specific), whether its the Azania state TFG troops or the Ras Kamboni brigade.Its a political ploy by both Kenya and Somalia to cover up the initial Political wrangling, this was Sharif's only card to derail Azania via denouncement of Kenya not for patriotic reasons but because of his feud with Azania and specifically with Prof.Gaandi.Now that the pressure has piled up on Sharif, this announcement in Nairobi is designed to calm the issue but clearly Sharif has not had his way.Kenya will not easily discontinue its support of Azania based on Sharif's cynical words, dismantling Azania will only cause further problems for Kenya.Its not a piece of paper which you can scrap in one-day, Kenya has only been a sponsor they haven't physically been involved in the state building process which has garnered the support of many politicians, elders and citizens of Jubbaland.It is only these people who can reverse Azania or scrap it to form a new state, its admin is already in parts of the Jubba region and Azania state troops are fighting alongside the Ras-Kamboni brigade aided by Kenya it would be counter-productive for Kenya to attempt to tear down Azania at this critical moment.In addition to its large Lobby in Kenya, Azania is not going anywhere anytime soon.

The future hope is Political reconciliation between Azania and the remaining political entities in places like Gedo to form a refined Jubbaland-Azania state.

The thread title sounds like "I seen you out the window"

Do you guys just love to argue?

None of you can do anything about it Azania, chinese/kenyan/ethio/ugandan/french/british/US meddling ANYWHERE in Somalia.

If you're not doing anything constructive for Somalia/your region (for the clan lovers) STFU, relax and stop acting like statesmen.

UlteriorMotive wrote:Do you guys just love to argue?

None of you can do anything about it Azania, chinese/kenyan/ethio/ugandan/french/british/US meddling ANYWHERE in Somalia.

If you're not doing anything constructive for Somalia/your region (for the clan lovers) STFU, relax and stop acting like statesmen.

UNUKAH somalinet iskaleh

I dont care whether sharif approves or not ,I am against Kenya invasion.As for maamul in jubbas,I support an inclusive maamul formed inside the country which represents all somalis who live in there wethere they are rahanweyn,daarood or hawiye.because of the nemourous clans that live there,they need to negotiate more.

As for ciyaalka majerten ee sida naagaha u qeyliyanaa,war heedhe,I assure you i have more rights to talk about jubboyinka than you.!! waayo aniguu geeleygu daaqaa meeshaas:lol:

Addoow wrote:I dont care whether sharif approves or not ,I am against Kenya invasion.As for maamul in jubbas,I support an inclusive maamul formed inside the country which represents all somalis who live in there wethere they are rahanweyn,daarood or hawiye.because of the nemourous clans that live there,they need to negotiate more.

As for ciyaalka majerten ee sida naagaha u qeyliyanaa,war heedhe,I assure you i have more rights to talk about jubboyinka than you.!!

Addow seems like you have softened your stance what kind of Israeli PR have you come up with. We support a two state solution and blablabla but do you condemn the bombing raids.

Mise unuka waxan rabo banu shegoya

Patriot

I Have made a thread about the cowardice attack in jilib which targeted the refugee camps.I have not changed my stance on kenya invasion.What irritates me waa nimanka sida naagaha u faana ee aan waxba iska dhicin karin.shit foqol shit weeye.

Addoow wrote:Patriot

I Have made a thread about the cowardice attack in jilib which targeted the refugee camps.I have not changed my stance on kenya invasion.What irritates me waa nimanka sida naagaha u faana ee aan waxba iska dhicin karin.shit foqol shit weeye.

We need Abgaal Nooh.

Addoow wrote:I dont care whether sharif approves or not ,I am against Kenya invasion.As for maamul in jubbas,I support an inclusive maamul formed inside the country which represents all somalis who live in there wethere they are rahanweyn,daarood or hawiye.because of the nemourous clans that live there,they need to negotiate more.

As for ciyaalka majerten ee sida naagaha u qeyliyanaa,war heedhe,I assure you i have more rights to talk about jubboyinka than you.!! waayo aniguu geeleygu daaqaa meeshaas:lol:

Jubboyinka wa meeshan ku dhashay, hada adiguna ku dhalatay dee wan wada le nahay, lagin haday ka tahay "Unuka leh" dee wax soconaya ta maa ahan... waa hadaa aqli le dahay.

Hadan ta ka imado oo aan u gudbo Villa Somalia, hadusan Sharif donayen in Al Shababka Jubboyinka lala dagaalo soo maa roona inaad ninka ka dhadhicisaan in meesha Abdiwali ku wareejiyo? Buqaba suu u yarado.

Addoow, are you mad that your uncle Shariif had to swallow his words? Even Roving justified shariif u-turn with ' shariif was never against the Kenyan incursion' adna markii siyaasada lagaa raayey baa cay iyo aflagaado lasoo shirtagtay

abdalla11 wrote:Addoow, are you mad that your uncle Shariif had to swallow his words? Even Roving justified shariif u-turn with ' shariif was never against the Kenyan incursion' adna markii siyaasada lagaa raayey baa cay iyo aflagaado lasoo shirtagtay

First,sharif is not my uncle,It is true we are related qabiil wise if that is what you mean.

As for somali politics waa confusion wada socda,and i care less what these guys do.but one thing,aniga kenya iyo ethiopia waligey ma taageerin mana taagerayo taasna waa heybad alle i siisay.


D-runner
I was also born in wanlaweyn marka my uncles camels ayaa meesha daaqa,that is what i was trying to say.meesha somali oo dhan baa leh waana in kenyatiga laga difaacaa.
peace

Addoow wrote:D-runner
I was also born in wanlaweyn marka my uncles camels ayaa meesha daaqa,that is what i was trying to say.meesha somali oo dhan baa leh waana in kenyatiga laga difaacaa.
peace

Nin qalbi ficaan ba tahay Insha Allah waxii dhib aah oo Somali iskula kacdaay waa laga heeshin... bal anagu wixii afxuma oo la is dhahay aan iska cafino.

RovingMadness wrote:Somalia & Kenya agreed to let the people of the Jubba Valley to determine their own future & organize their own administration under the auspices of the Somali Government!

As if they can make any decisions on their own.

seemeyer wrote:The thread title sounds like "I seen you out the window"

See out the window-door,and tell if it is an elephant or ants marching into the house?