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@ the rate this brainless donkey is questioning many of the fundamental pillars of our great religion, I expect him to finally throw the towel (or shall I say cimaamad if he ever had 1) and say that is it, am no longer a Muslim before 2011 concludes.

Daanyerow wrote:@ the rate this brainless donkey is questioning many of the fundamental pillars of our great religion, I expect him to finally throw the towel (or shall I say cimaamad if he ever had 1) and say that is it, am no longer a Muslim before 2011 concludes.

he calls himself a moderate Muslim and he wants to modernize Islam

...and the donkey keeps braying.

Alchemist wrote: I know you don't accept sharia but understand this sharia is the deen the deen is sharia.

All this won't matter though because you don't accept hadiths, scholars, the coming of isse Jesus, sharia etc. You don't believe in the basic fundamentals of Islam so you shouldn't worry about riba.

DEEN is not sharia. sharia its just arabic word which means " LAW" sharciga. AND WORD DIIN means religion. Islamic religion basics are to believe singel god and mohamed scw as hes prophets. and so called Sharia can be part of islamic DEEN. but islaamic deen is not a sharia.


and about hadiith i never said i dont believe hadiith. i just said there are thousends of thousends fake hadiiths which contradics quran and i dont believe hadiith which contradics word of allah quran. but if hadiith does not contradics quran then i believe that hadiith.


so called FIQHI books actually has nothing to do whit hadiith. most of them were written be scholars who where living 5 houred years after prophets scw past away. so FIQHI books itself its oppinion of humanbiengs.

about intresest rate as i said does not automaticly means ribba in arabic.

Saraxnow wrote:Yalaxoow thinks he knows more than Fiqh Scholars, SMH.

i did not say i know more than figh scholars. but some of fiqhi books is a outdated for example once i read a fighi book written ahmed hanbali the mad-hab which saudis fellow or so called wahaabsm or salafsm. hes book the chapther about selling and buying of slaves. he says that its allowed to sell in the markets your slaves children even if your one who fathared that child. so in todays world that could not happen.so fiqhi books todays standar some of them are no longer valid.

Yalax,
Tell us ur real reason behind this question.
Do you want to take interest?

Modern Islam.

Poor yalaxaw is having a crisis of faith, so european
mabruuk you are well on your way to become a truley "modern" man.



Let me give you one pieace of advise.. there is Islam and there are Muslims
2 different things..

you cannot equate the actions of Muslims to Islam..

You have probably run into allot of brain dead barley sapiant wadaads who profess islamic knowledge and this put you off.
You were also WOWed by the wests economic and scientific achievements.

Its ok happens to the allot of people..

i suggest you study your religion, study your history
and you will see things in prespective.