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I was 100 percent against abdullahi yusuf but abdullahi yusuf was a tuug and the first traitor in somali history however 5 years later and we know what Islamic courts union became they are worse then abdullahi yusuf We have sharrif the biggest munafiq in somalian then we have Dahir aweys qabiliste who uses he seen and ofcourse al shabaab who behead anyone

these idiots are talking out of talking. no where did shariff ask for ethiopia to invade and neither did he made a statement about this rumour. Marka don't you think its wise to wait for his voice before judging him? dumb somalis!

Abdullahi Yusuf didn't use a religious banner to come into office, he said something he meant it and he doesnt steal money his probably the only honest politician in somalia. Look at gedi his living in 1 million dollar home in nairobi.

1. Abdullahi Yusuf didnt sell somalia sea to kenya
2. Abdullahi Yusuf brought the ethiopians in with hawiye support.
3. Amisom is being brought in with or without parliament approval, its sharif project.

Abdullahi was a man of consenus dadka ayuu la tashan jiray he was always like that siiba odayasha. Sharif doesnt do neither

The thing is Abdulahi Yusuf was always a warlord and he knew it himself, he was just trying get in on the hustle by any means and when he saw the opposition he retired from politics for good, whereas shariif saw himself as some sort of freedom fighter (remember: don't let the gaalo rule us) and then he pulled a u-turn shaved the beard and suddenly followed the exact same steps as yeey.

dagameison wrote:Abdullahi Yusuf didn't use a religious banner to come into office, he said something he meant it and he doesnt steal money his probably the only honest politician in somalia. Look at gedi his living in 1 million dollar home in nairobi.

1. Abdullahi Yusuf didnt sell somalia sea to kenya
2. Abdullahi Yusuf brought the ethiopians in with hawiye support.
3. Amisom is being brought in with or without parliament approval, its sharif project.

Abdullahi was a man of consenus dadka ayuu la tashan jiray he was always like that siiba odayasha. Sharif doesnt do neither

dagameison wrote:Abdullahi Yusuf didn't use a religious banner to come into office, he said something he meant it and he doesnt steal money his probably the only honest politician in somalia. Look at gedi his living in 1 million dollar home in nairobi.

1. Abdullahi Yusuf didnt sell somalia sea to kenya
2. Abdullahi Yusuf brought the ethiopians in with hawiye support.
3. Amisom is being brought in with or without parliament approval, its sharif project.

Abdullahi was a man of consenus dadka ayuu la tashan jiray he was always like that siiba odayasha. Sharif doesnt do neither

Cowke/Abdirazak PTL/Thankful

Then again, who can take Somali politics seriously?

The honest truth is that AY brought some sense of dowladnimo back to Somalia, he had a vision. Shariif shouldnt be a MOD on Snet let alone president

The past present n future TFG can suck my big toe

I thought sharif is against Ethiopia?

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African Union Considers Sending Ethiopian Troops to Somalia


Friday, November 18, 2011

The African Union is considering an ambitious plan to stabilize Somalia that could involve using thousands of Ethiopian troops to open a new front against the Shabab militant group, officials of the union said Thursday.

The African Union’s peacekeepers are already battling the Shabab in Mogadishu, the capital, and Kenyan forces have recently begun fighting the Shabab in southern Somalia near Kismaayo. But the prospect of the Ethiopian Army returning to the country under the African Union’s banner is highly charged because of Ethiopia’s bitter history in Somalia.

An official of the Somali government said Thursday that Ethiopian troops had already begun to move across the border, discomfiting Somalia’s president, Sheik Sharif Sheik Ahmed.

Ethiopia has one of the largest armies in Africa and has often clashed with Somalia. Ethiopian troops invaded Somalia in 2006 to oust an Islamist movement that then controlled much of the country. Sheik Sharif was one of the movement’s leaders, and after hiding from the Ethiopians, he fled Somalia.

The Ethiopian troops remained for about two years, and their occupation was hugely unpopular; thousands of civilians were killed when the troops indiscriminately shelled urban areas. The Shabab capitalized on the intense anti-Ethiopian feelings, and their ranks swelled.

Western and African Union officials say the Ethiopians are now eager to deal the Shabab a crushing blow and to install their own proxies in Somalia, which could lead to even more power struggles and factional bloodshed.

The Somali official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the delicacy of the topic, said that Sheik Sharif was not happy with the prospect that Ethiopian troops would return, “but he has no choice” because his government ruled only a small area of the capital and was powerless to block the move. The Ethiopians are expected to work closely with Somali clan militias in the Baidoa area and are not likely to enter Mogadishu again.

A senior African Union official, who also spoke on the condition of anonymity, stressed that any Ethiopian involvement would be carefully coordinated with the existing 9,000-strong African Union peacekeeping force, which has sustained heavy casualties recently.

“The idea is to relieve pressure on Amisom,” the official said, referring to the peacekeeping force by its acronym. “We’re looking at how neighboring countries can assist, and we are quite aware of the sensitive aspects.”

Somalia, which has not had an effective national government since 1991, is rapidly becoming an arena where Kenya, Ethiopia and even Uganda, which has contributed thousands of troops to the peacekeeping force, vie for influence and use their involvement in the war-ravaged country for leverage with Western aid donors.

Many analysts accuse the African Union and Kenya of being tone-deaf to the complicated politics in Somalia, where the fledgling transitional government is struggling to defeat Islamist militants, rally the populace to its side and extend its sway.

For instance, this week Kenya proudly announced a new cooperation pact with Israel, under which Israeli experts will help beef up Kenya’s counterterrorism forces, who already get millions of dollars in assistance from the United States and Britain.

Trumpeting the cooperation pact seemed to play straight into the hands of the Shabab, who present themselves as the true defenders of Islam in Somalia. The group immediately circulated recruiting agents from mosque to mosque, telling potential followers that the Kenyans were bent on a religious crusade in Somalia and had teamed up with Israel.

Kenya sent troops into southern Somalia in October, initially saying they were chasing kidnappers; it later said the incursion was months in the making and was intended to clear militants from a buffer zone along the Kenya-Somalia border.

On Thursday, Salim Lone, an adviser to the Kenyan prime minister, defended the pact with Israel.

“This new international alliance will substantially strengthen Kenya’s ability to protect itself from more terror attacks,” Mr. Lone said. “But to succeed, it must be accompanied by a related campaign to address the causes which breed extremism among Muslims at the coast and the northeast,” the areas of Kenya nearest to Somalia with the highest concentrations of Muslims.

African Union officials said Thursday that the Kenyan forces would soon be absorbed into the official peacekeeping operation, and that the African Union would ask the United Nations to authorize as many as 20,000 African peacekeepers for Somalia.

abdalla11 wrote:The honest truth is that AY brought some sense of dowladnimo back to Somalia, he had a vision. Shariif shouldnt be a MOD on Snet let alone president

I think the only people deserving of an apology are apolitical Somalis back home caught between all this nonsense.

People Ethiopians troops been in Somalia for the last 2 years, this isn't news. Ethiopians troops are in Gedo at the moment helping War_lord Barre Hiraale.

Cabdullahi Yusuf doesn't need an apology from anyone as History shall uplift him as the greatest leader and Icon in Somali history.

Turbulence wrote: As for the people who opposed him it was mainly the Hawiye and they did it for tribal reasons. They never had any problems with the Habeshi presence. They just did not like the idea of a Darood ruling from Mogadishu. That is the honest truth.

Nope. I opposed it and knew nothing about tribes as a teenager. Didn't even realise the tribal dynamics until years later. Comparing the situation is like trying to fit a circle into a square peg. Now i'm not really Sharif supporter but not let's lie and re-write history.

- In 2006 Al shabab were not in existence...suicide bombing was not their forte. The ICU is much different to Al-shabab. Sharif was in the former not the latter.

-Why were Ethiopians invading Somalia when we finally got rid of the warlords? Here's why:

But the Ethiopians worried the Islamists had designs on Ethiopian territory that is ethnically Somali and the U.S. was concerned the Somali Islamists were harboring terrorists. The Ethiopians entered the country at the end of 2006 and drove the Islamists from power.

They were looking at the long term effects of having a grassroots, non-warlord somali movement. It was naked aggression which was not needed in Somalia.


As for Hawiye opposing Darood...only in ya head buddy. Well in 06-7 gedi was PM. Were hawiye fighting abgal too? or do hawiye only fight when the president is MJ?

The population in xamar could care less sxb they have enough on their plate and don't have the luxury of clan politics. This is why they rioted to keep farmajo in power and wanted sharif out.

The same farmajo MJs refused to support because he wasn't their own. It takes a qabilist to call others a qabilist.

Cabdullahi Yusuf was a hero compared to that 2 faced Shiikh Shariif. At least AY had one face and was a walk the talk person. If he was given more time Shabaab would have been finito.