Somaliland and the international community

[The_Emperior5]

Xamar will never agree with Somalilands recognition the only thing that unites them (Koonfurians) is that Somaliland must come under Xamar i will not count on them/ Cumar there are many African states that can break the ice we just need an ice breaker.

ok live in your dreamworld sxb, eritrea got it from addis, south sudan got it from khartoum, you will not get it from kampala

Western Sahara got it from the African union Morocco left the African union because of the recognition of the western sahara

Xamar will never ever ever agree with Somalilands independence that's like Israel accepting the 1967 borders

[Ceelafweyn]

Abdalla11,

May I remind you that the Arab league come under the Western influence? These head of states are servant for the British and the Americans. So having a tremendoulsy good relationship with the West assists Somaliland's cause for recognition for the sole purpose of bileteral infrastructure assistants.

With respect to the recent Somaliland government travel to China, it was purely commercialy driven and not politically orientated. The mere purpose was to ceal a joint venture with Ethiopian goverment (Berbera Corridor). Incidently ethiopian goverment enjoys excellent relationship with West, EU and China.

In terms of Bosaso port usage by some traders, well Bosaso is small port with less beauractic system, it goes without saying that it is not as advancedly operated port in contrast to Berbera, which handles many shipment that anchore on monthly basis. On the other hand Bosaso capacity is to only handle boats and no other vessels. The boats in Bosaso are easy to handle in that respect

[SahanGalbeed]

1/ Gurey has not said "puntland HAS a monopoly" on anything
this is the quote in its context

Presdient Silanyo meets with UAE officials
For years the relationship with the arab countries has been monopolized by Puntland,

2/

The fact that majority of SL businessmen use Bosaso port instead of Berbera should indicate who has superior economy.

I am really not sure of where you get that from . Xagged kala soo baxday waxaas , miyaad iska samaysatay ?

[fighter]

Somaliland is doing great without recognition. The proof is in the city of Hargeisa.

Recognition now will lead to the World Bank and IMF giving Somaliland loans that can't be paid back



Go sland go

[Cumar-Labasuul]

emperior, you are indeed confused western sahara isn't even controlled by themselves morocco still controls it and it is a disputed region

so what if xamar will never recognise SL, same was said for addis and look what eritrea did by force

[The_Emperior5]

emperior, you are indeed confused western sahara isn't even controlled by themselves morocco still controls it and it is a disputed region

so what if xamar will never recognise SL, same was said for addis and look what eritrea did by force

But that doesn't matter they have a seat at the African union its disputed between Morocco and the western sahara govt but they are recognized. Melez zanawi is a tigrayaan Woyanes will destroy Ethiopia he didn't really care if eritrea got independent or not, Amharaas opposed to Eritrea referendum and Called Melez a big traitor Amahars still want to bring back Eritrea i know couple of Amhaaras they hate Melez more than they hate Somalis

[abdalla11]

Sahan, you're entitled to your view lakiin you questioned my statements in the other topic when i mentioned SL and PL's traits.

I still stand by statement of PL having superior economy.

In comparison to Hargeisa, Bosasso residents enjoy a higher standard of living if we compare average daily incomes. While urban residents of Hargeisa earn, on average, about $1 a day, Bosasso residents earn over $4. Naturally, with respect to Bosasso, IDPs earnings are far lower. Most IDP households in Bosasso earn a daily wage of a little over a $1

http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/pdfid/4c5a6a7f2.pdf Page 140

Anagu hada faankii waan ka baxney, facts baan ku soconaa

As for the relationships, you cant go from zero ( east africans are basically zero) to the top dog, its smarter to deal with the small dogs i.e Arab or the emerging economies such as Brasil, Indonesia etc etc. All i am saying is dealing with the EU/US is out of our league

[Cumar-Labasuul]

emperior, you are indeed confused western sahara isn't even controlled by themselves morocco still controls it and it is a disputed region

so what if xamar will never recognise SL, same was said for addis and look what eritrea did by force

But that doesn't matter they have a seat at the African union its disputed between Morocco and the western sahara govt but they are recognized. Melez zanawi is a tigrayaan Woyanes will destroy Ethiopia he didn't really care if eritrea got independent or not, Amharaas opposed to Eritrea referendum and Called Melez a big traitor Amahars still want to bring back Eritrea i know couple of Amhaaras they hate Melez more than they hate Somalis

20 years of asking outsiders hasn't achieved one thing, so we have only one clear option: xamar

western sahara doesn't even control anything only 20% of the territory and is disputed like tibet/kashmir etc

[The_Emperior5]

But they are recognized we can pull a stunt like that Somalia is a failed state any ways African union doesn't really care about Somalia we just need to step up our game in the horn we need to get heavily involved in Somalia Politics the same way the rest of the horn does if you want the state department to think different about you're case

Dude Xamar will never agree with you're independence do you think the Somaliland Politicians didn't try that Abdiqaasim was the closest who had some unofficial relations with Cigaal and even he said Somalia and Somaliland can never be divided Maybe ismacil cumar geele whispered some evil things into his ears he was cool for a long period

[ManD333q]

somalis are childish, stupid and are full of xin iyo xaasidnimo. they will never be anything in this world as long as they are fighting and killing each other over waterholes and bushy tuulus in the 21.centruy

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Sahan, you're entitled to your view lakiin you questioned my statements in the other topic when i mentioned SL and PL's traits.

I still stand by statement of PL having superior economy.

In comparison to Hargeisa, Bosasso residents enjoy a higher standard of living if we compare average daily incomes. While urban residents of Hargeisa earn, on average, about $1 a day, Bosasso residents earn over $4. Naturally, with respect to Bosasso, IDPs earnings are far lower. Most IDP households in Bosasso earn a daily wage of a little over a $1

http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/pdfid/4c5a6a7f2.pdf Page 140

Anagu hada faankii waan ka baxney, facts baan ku soconaa

As for the relationships, you cant go from zero ( east africans are basically zero) to the top dog, its smarter to deal with the small dogs i.e Arab or the emerging economies such as Brasil, Indonesia etc etc. All i am saying is dealing with the EU/US is out of our league

Lol@ comparing Hargeisa to Bosaso in gdp per capita. Waryaa, get out of here son. Hargeisa has a much bigger population and has a more diverse population. A large number being IDPs from the south. Bosaso port is used because itisn't plagued by corruption and bureaucracy like Berbera. But even then I guarantee you Berbera sees more more business than Bosaso.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

somalis are childish, stupid and are full of xin iyo xaasidnimo. they will never be anything in this world as long as they are fighting and killing each other over waterholes and bushy tuulus in the 21.centruy

Well said sis. Somalis are fighting over a barren bit of dirt and muddy ponds they call ceelo, meanwhile the rest of the world is building space stations in the sky and making computers, cars, smart-phones. What have somalis contributed to the advancement of human-kind? SMH.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

no they are partially recognised and even then they are not a UN member and they don't control 3 quarters of their land.

How are you any different to those in xamar who believe the tfg will restore somalia - you believe the past failures of the 20 years of asking countries recognition will work when will you realise....it seems never

[abdalla11]

Sahan, you're entitled to your view lakiin you questioned my statements in the other topic when i mentioned SL and PL's traits.

I still stand by statement of PL having superior economy.

In comparison to Hargeisa, Bosasso residents enjoy a higher standard of living if we compare average daily incomes. While urban residents of Hargeisa earn, on average, about $1 a day, Bosasso residents earn over $4. Naturally, with respect to Bosasso, IDPs earnings are far lower. Most IDP households in Bosasso earn a daily wage of a little over a $1

http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/pdfid/4c5a6a7f2.pdf Page 140

Anagu hada faankii waan ka baxney, facts baan ku soconaa

As for the relationships, you cant go from zero ( east africans are basically zero) to the top dog, its smarter to deal with the small dogs i.e Arab or the emerging economies such as Brasil, Indonesia etc etc. All i am saying is dealing with the EU/US is out of our league

Lol@ comparing Hargeisa to Bosaso in gdp per capita. Waryaa, get out of here son. Hargeisa has a much bigger population and has a more diverse population. A large number being IDPs from the south. Bosaso port is used because itisn't plagued by corruption and bureaucracy like Berbera. But even then I guarantee you Berbera sees more more business than Bosaso.

Does it eat you inside that an IDP in bosaso makes more than an 'ethnic Hargeisawi' in his hometown Hargeisa LOL

Without realising you gave the reasons why Bosaso is more successful than Berbera. I mentioned your strongest points and our strongest point, no need to get emotional

[The_Emperior5]

no they are partially recognised and even then they are not a UN member and they don't control 3 quarters of their land.

How are you any different to those in xamar who believe the tfg will restore somalia - you believe the past failures of the 20 years of asking countries recognition will work when will you realise....it seems never

They are recognized by the African union while Morocco was protesting and in the end Morocco left the African union so it is possible my dear Cousin they might not be recognized by the UN but it has to start some where if we are recognized by the AU the UN will follow mark my words. As if Xamar will ever agree to live side by side as two states For Somaliland i have no trust in Xamar we have seen their policy towards Somaliland the past 20 years Siilaanyo is trying to change things with his people diplomacy but that will fail he knows that two , our Recognition is at the AU offices across Africa