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Re: Muslim medical students boycotting evolution lectures

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Nanees wrote:ya juuj and ma juuj are in the quran as descendents of nabi adam, yet their physical descriptons are much different then ours (size/strength).
Nabi nuuh is stated to have lived 1000+ years, and it was normal for people of his time. Yet nowadays we have 70yrsish lifespan.
Nabi adam was one man, yet his progeny have such a widespread amount of features (indians, whites, blacks, chinese).
they're literally everywhere, it just takes an open mind to find them. :up:
The evolution theory claims humans evolved from bacteria, fish, mouse-like creature and through apes. How does it relates to what you've mentioned above?
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arabmtu wrote:
Nanees wrote:ya juuj and ma juuj are in the quran as descendents of nabi adam, yet their physical descriptons are much different then ours (size/strength).
Nabi nuuh is stated to have lived 1000+ years, and it was normal for people of his time. Yet nowadays we have 70yrsish lifespan.
Nabi adam was one man, yet his progeny have such a widespread amount of features (indians, whites, blacks, chinese).
they're literally everywhere, it just takes an open mind to find them. :up:
The evolution theory claims humans evolved from bacteria, fish, mouse-like creature and through apes. How does it relates to what you've mentioned above?

evolution simply means that species change over time. A specific scientists (darwin)'s expansion on evolution, is that humans have evolved from chimps.

I really wish muslims would learn about things before they run their mouths about them :up: there was a time when muslim scholars were phd's in engineering, biology, literature, ect. Now you've got people with hs degrees attempting to declare phd level research haram and invalid.
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Nanees wrote:there was a time when muslim scholars were phd's in engineering, biology, literature, ect.
That was when they were Islamists and when there was the Khilafah. The positive thing, the Khilafah is on its way to be re-established. :up:
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Nanees wrote:
arabmtu wrote:
Nanees wrote:ya juuj and ma juuj are in the quran as descendents of nabi adam, yet their physical descriptons are much different then ours (size/strength).
Nabi nuuh is stated to have lived 1000+ years, and it was normal for people of his time. Yet nowadays we have 70yrsish lifespan.
Nabi adam was one man, yet his progeny have such a widespread amount of features (indians, whites, blacks, chinese).
they're literally everywhere, it just takes an open mind to find them. :up:
The evolution theory claims humans evolved from bacteria, fish, mouse-like creature and through apes. How does it relates to what you've mentioned above?

evolution simply means that species change over time. A specific scientists (darwin)'s expansion on evolution, is that humans have evolved from chimps.

I really wish muslims would learn about things before they run their mouths about them :up: there was a time when muslim scholars were phd's in engineering, biology, literature, ect. Now you've got people with hs degrees attempting to declare phd level research haram and invalid.
what's your point? you are smarter than everyone else?? is that what you are implying? look, there's nothing called "evolution" and humans didn't evolved from chimps. and that's, only if you adhere to the authentic Islamic faith that, nowadays people like you, have put aside so it doesn't conflict with their white master's crazy ideas.

it is very simple if you believe in Islam: all humans are the offspring of Adam and Hawa. and Adam was created by allah and we all know how he was created, according to the holly Quran. end of story. there's no room for argument or heresy.

you either believe Darwin's theory or the holly Quran nor can you combine them. good luck brother.
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barakaboy10 wrote:what's your point? you are smarter than everyone else?? is that what you are implying? look, there's nothing called "evolution" and humans didn't evolved from chimps. and that's, only if you adhere to the authentic Islamic faith that, nowadays people like you, have put aside so it doesn't conflict with their white master's crazy ideas.

it is very simple if you believe in Islam: all humans are the offspring of Adam and Hawa. and Adam was created by allah and we all know how he was created, according to the holly Quran. end of story. there's no room for argument or heresy.

you either believe Darwin's theory or the holly Quran nor can you combine them. good luck brother.
You seriously lack reading comprehension.
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accident wrote:
barakaboy10 wrote:what's your point? you are smarter than everyone else?? is that what you are implying? look, there's nothing called "evolution" and humans didn't evolved from chimps. and that's, only if you adhere to the authentic Islamic faith that, nowadays people like you, have put aside so it doesn't conflict with their white master's crazy ideas.

it is very simple if you believe in Islam: all humans are the offspring of Adam and Hawa. and Adam was created by allah and we all know how he was created, according to the holly Quran. end of story. there's no room for argument or heresy.

you either believe Darwin's theory or the holly Quran nor can you combine them. good luck brother.
You seriously lack reading comprehension.
i thought so!
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Evolution doesn't exist, we were created from clay and water, through Adam and Eve.


End of story.
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grandpakhalif wrote:Evolution doesn't exist, we were created from clay and water, through Adam and Eve.


End of story.
thank you granpakhalif.

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In evolution of course it is there, species evolve over time, I don't think there is any doubt about that. As humans, we too have changed and evolved to best suit our habitats. The problem then arises is where do you start and where do you stop in the sequence of events looked at it in reverse? Humans, do we also share certain a common ancestor as apes, do all creatures share a common ancestor, does the multiplicity of cells come from a single cell? And what is the mechanism in which change happens? Is there such a thing as Natural selection if you are believer of a higher power that has a will? It's like reconciling free will and pre-destination but being played out in nature.
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This ill-informed opposition to evolution and the casual slander of prominent scientists by the intellectually bankrupt morons on this thread is making my head spin. The evidence for evolution is beyond conclusive, it’s fact. Evolution is the guiding principle of biological science, indeed biology does not make sense except in the light of evolution.
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Alphanumeric wrote:I don't understand people who choose to go into this field, then complain about how it clashes with their own views.
Did they not learn anything in high school?

My sentiments exactly. :up:
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Perfect_Order wrote:In evolution of course it is there, species evolve over time, I don't think there is any doubt about that. As humans, we too have changed and evolved to best suit our habitats. The problem then arises is where do you start and where do you stop in the sequence of events looked at it in reverse? Humans, do we also share certain a common ancestor as apes, do all creatures share a common ancestor, does the multiplicity of cells come from a single cell? And what is the mechanism in which change happens? Is there such a thing as Natural selection if you are believer of a higher power that has a will? It's like reconciling free will and pre-destination but being played out in nature.
You mean just like you evolvoed from a muslim to an atheist?
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Kukri wrote:You mean just like you evolvoed from a muslim to an atheist?
In the welcoming topic, what you and granpa stated about PO was right.
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Kukri why are you attacking my personal views? Change happens, whether superficially or more drastically where two species originally one have become so different they can't produce viable offspring. Superficially a Mongolian does not look the same as you, he has more fat in his cheek and eye lids to keep them from freezing, while you are probably taller and more slender. At the same time at the metabolic level, you and a navajo are not the same. Navajo adapting to an environment where sugar was very rare, their bodies developed to store sugar and use it extremely conservatively.

So evolution or you can say change does happen, now for all the assertions that have gone with this fact, that can be put to the microscope, but to deny wholly that species don't change overtime is odd.
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