The Myth of One somali.

[greenday]

Loool cumar thats not what reer xamar sound like those men are speaking in accents spoken in xamar A real reer xamar i mean cad cads are closer to maay than the men.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

actually she says like this

dad diloow dowlo ma ki ahadaanee= dad diloow dawlad miyaa lagu noqdaa

look 75% of this sentence is a maxaa tiri accent

if i translate that in xamari accent

dad diloow maa dawlad lagu ahaanaa

okay other part of the what the girl is saying is this

buundada korkeeda la koo maroohaayee= buundada korkeeda ayaa la marayaa ( the word "buundo" somali waqooti call it bridge
haddii aan baladkeey joogaasii (( joogaasee ------= haddii aan wadankeeyga joogo( i dont understand rest of the sentence)
fartuun biloow haddanee koofeer fadaanee= fartuun bile hadda ayey koofeer(meesha timaha lagu sameeyo) dooneysaa inay aado


then she says again and again
dad diloow dawlad ma ka ahaadanee= dadka dilkooda ma dawlad ayaa lagu noqdaa

marka you see if a language uses 75% or even 65% same words then its same language but different accent.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Look at these examples of spanish and portugese and look at the similarities and yet they are still seperate languages:

spanish
Pero, a pesar de esta variedad de posibilidades que la voz posee, sería un muy pobre instrumento de comunicación si no contara más que con ella. La capacidad de expresión del hombre no dispondría de más medios que la de los animales. La voz, sola, es para el hombre apenas una materia informe, que para convertirse en un instrumento perfecto de comunicación debe ser sometida a un cierto tratamiento. Esa manipulación que recibe la voz son las "articulaciones".

portugese
Porém, apesar desta variedade de possibilidades que a voz possui, seria um instrumento de comunicação muito pobre se não se contasse com mais do que ela. A capacidade de expressão do homem não disporia de mais meios que a dos animais. A voz, sozinha, é para o homem apenas uma matéria informe, que para se converter num instrumento perfeito de comunicação deve ser submetida a um certo tratamento. Essa manipulação que a voz recebe são as "articulações".


another example is hindi and urdu basically the same language but classified different, however somali maay cannot be fully understood throughout the somali peninsula. Different dialects are like the reer xamar one spoken and the mudug one etc me who is from hargeisa even though hard at times can fully understand these dialects because they have the same root. However maay sounds closer to borana (oromo)

swedish and norwegian are even much closer than spanish and italian or portiguis. here example swedish and norwegian


swedish

Det kunde inte stämma bättre med de data vi har. Jag kan nästan garantera att vi har det slutgiltiga svaret

norwgian

Det kunne ikke passe bedre med de data vi har. Jeg kan nesten garantere at vi vil ha det endelige svaret

if norwey and sweden was a singel country then this 2 language would be probably singel language whit different dialect. but the reason norwgian become its own language is Norwey become indepdent country

in order a language to become offical you need your own country . if baydhabo becomes a republic of baydhabo indepedent country which international community recognises then AF maay become a language and not a dailect. for example in northern part of sweden norwey and finland even some part of Russia there are ethnic minorties whichs called SAAMI PEOPLE. saami language inside of sweden two saami people from north sweden and one from middle of sweden if they want to speak eachother they can not understand eachother. but both offically speak SAAMI language whit different dialect. if those SAAMI people lets say saami in norway world have their own land nation then their saami dialect would become a offical language and not a just saami accent.

my point is you need to have your own country inorder to have your own language even if your language is almost same as your neighbouring country .

[tightrope]

AF-MAY IS THE MOST VILE DIALECT I'VE EVER HEARD.
AKHAS!

[greenday]

AF-MAY IS THE MOST VILE DIALECT I'VE EVER HEARD.
AKHAS!

Akhas yourself waxyahay aan edabta la barin.

[qadafi83]

Somalia has 4 ethno-racial groups.

Natives:

1) The true Somalis (mainly Northern and Central regions).

2) The assimilated South Oromos (Digil iyo Mirifle, also includes many Hawiye). The Maay dialect is simply degraded Somali with an appreciable Oromo substratum.

And the newcomers:

3) Bantu minorities: Descendants of slaves.

4) Middle Eastern minorities: Descendants of traders.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Somalia has 4 ethno-racial groups.

Natives:

1) The true Somalis (mainly Northern and Central regions).

2) The assimilated South Oromos (Digil iyo Mirifle, also includes many Hawiye). The Maay dialect is simply degraded Somali with an appreciable Oromo substratum.

And the newcomers:

3) Bantu minorities: Descendants of slaves.

4) Middle Eastern minorities: Descendants of traders.

Pretty much summed it up. I've never really considered anything below mudug as somali.

[gedo_gurl]

^^ So if you dont consider me Somali, maxaan ahey horta? Uff Somalinet is full of idiots. Virus idin ku dhacyey.

[Addoow]

AF-MAY IS THE MOST VILE DIALECT I'VE EVER HEARD.
AKHAS!

dhiloyinka luuq luuqdaya lagu rifo markii ay snet yimaadaan why are they full of vile and filth like this one?

[kambuli]

Dal Qudha weeye..Saado ayaa idiin sheegtey..

[Avicenna]

When did Maay become another language? If anything, maxaa tiri originated from Maay according to most scholars.

Languages usually follow a universal pattern of spreading i.e. from agricultural communities in the hinterlands, to marauding nomads who come in to contact with these communities. These nomads then take these languages with them and pick up other dialects and tongues along the way, in the end producing their own unique language. Maay is spoken by millions between the two rivers, which is the oldest settled region in Somalia. If you lack common sense, don't try to shove your "Northerners speak better Somali" b.s. down our throats. What you speak is gibberish compared to authentic Somali.

[waryaa]

in fact is very diverse in terms of calture,language and people.

I don't know if we can call it cultural or sub-cultural differences but here in Mogadishu people from different geographical locations behave differently in many ways. For instance, the difference between reer Mudug/upper Galgudud culture and that of southerners is prevalent here in Mogadishu.

[SahanGalbeed]

^^ So if you dont consider me Somali, maxaan ahey horta? Uff Somalinet is full of idiots. Virus idin ku dhacyey.

Well in his racial classification I think he puts you in the northern/central group who've just expanded south .
I don't know what a TRUE somali is . In a land where everybody thinks he's better then the next guy , all this crap is nonesensical.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

^^ So if you dont consider me Somali, maxaan ahey horta? Uff Somalinet is full of idiots. Virus idin ku dhacyey.

I don't know what you are.

From the constant "aboowe abaayo" and booty-shaking to the beat of drums to the unhealthy penchant for bringing bantu soldiers into their country. There's really nothing very somali about xamar.

[SahanGalbeed]

^^ So if you dont consider me Somali, maxaan ahey horta? Uff Somalinet is full of idiots. Virus idin ku dhacyey.

I don't know what you are.

From the constant "aboowe abaayo" and booty-shaking to the beat of drums to the unhealthy penchant for bringing bantu soldiers into their country. There's really nothing very somali about xamar.

Take it easy bro, she's daarood . Politics is politics , tribal belonging is something else .