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Re: Answer to Athiesm

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DR-YALAXOOW wrote:
IronSheik wrote:the country being rich and full of sin, country of sin is worse. We are lucky with that but you seem to be blind. Insha'Allah you see the light.
worst sin you can commit is killing another humabiengs. iam sure you know somalia have world record of killing innocent people. so i think sweden commits less sin than Somalia because swedens murder rate are much lower than Somalia.
Give up abti,

A Gaalo country with gaalo residents do these major sins far more than a muslim country with muslim residents:
The Major Sins
--Al-Kaba'r--

The major sins are those acts which have been forbidden by Allah in the Quran and by His Messenger (SAW) in the Sunnah (practise of the Prophet), and which have been made clear by the actions of of the first righteous generation of Muslims, the Companions of the Prophet (SAW).
Allah Most High says in His Glorious Book:

If you avoid the major (part) of what you have been forbidden (to do), We will cancel out for you your (other) evil deeds and will admit you (to Paradise) with a noble entry. (al-Nisa 4:31)
Thus by this verse, Allah Most High has guaranteed the Garden of Paradise to those who avoid the major sins. And Allah Most High also says:
Those who avoid the greatest of sins and indecencies, and forgive when they are angry (al-Shra 42:37) Those who avoid the greatest sins and indecencies, except for oversights, (will find that) surely your Lord is ample in forgiveness. (Al-Najm 53:32)
The Messenger of Allah (SAW) said: "The five [daily] prayers, Friday to Friday, and Ramadan to Ramadan make atonement for what has happenned since the previous one when major sins have been avoided." It is therefore very important to determine exactly what the greatest vices, technically called "the major sins" (Kaba'ir), are, in order that Muslims should avoid them.
There is some difference of opinion among scholars in this regard. Some say these major sins are seven, and in support of their position they quote the tradition: "Avoid the seven noxious things"- and after having said this, the propeht (SAW) mentioned them: "associating anything with Allah; magic; killing one whom Allah has declared inviolate without a just case, consuming the property of an orphan, devouring usury, turning back when the army advances, and slandering chaste women who are believers but indiscreet." (Bukhari and Muslim)

'Abdullah ibn 'Abbas said: "Seventy is closer to their number than seven," and indeed that is correct. The above tradition does not limit the major sins to those mentioned in it. Rather, it points to the type of sins which fall into the category of "major." These include those crimes which call for a prescribed punishment (HADD; plural, HUDUD), such as theft, fornication or adultery (ZINA), and murder; those prohibited acts for which a warning of a severe punishment in the Next is given in the Qur'an or the tradition; and also those deeds which are cursed by our Prophet (SAW). These are all major sins.

Of course, there is a gradation among them, since some are more serious than others. We see that the Prophet (SAW) has included SHIRK (associating someone or something with Allah) among them, and from the text of the Qur'an we know that a person who commits SHIRK will not his sin be forgiven and will remain in Hell forever.

Allah Most High says: Surely, Allah does not forgive associating anything with Him, and He forgives whatever is other than that to whomever He wills. (al-Nisa 4:48 and 116)

01. Associating anything with Allah
02. Murder
03. Practising magic
04. Not Praying
05. Not paying Zakat
06. Not fasting on a Day of Ramadan without excuse
07. Not performing Hajj, while being able to do so
08. Disrespect to parents
09. Abandoning relatives
10. Fornication and Adultery
11. Homosexuality(sodomy)
12. Interest(Riba)
13. Wrongfully consuming the property of an orphan
14. Lying about Allah and His Messenger
15. Running away from the battlefield
16. A leader's deceiving his people and being unjust to them
17. Pride and arrogance
18. Bearing false witness
19. Drinking Khamr (wine)
20. Gambling
21. Slandering chaste women
22. Stealing from the spoils of war
23. Stealing
24. Highway Robbery
25. Taking false oath
26. Oppression
27. Illegal gain
28. Consuming wealth acquired unlawfully
29. Committing suicide
30. Frequent lying
31. Judging unjustly
32. Giving and Accepting bribes
33. Woman's imitating man and man's imitating woman
34. Being cuckold
35. Marrying a divorced woman in order to make her lawful for the husband
36. Not protecting oneself from urine
37. Showing-off
38. Learning knowledge of the religion for the sake of this world and concealing that knowledge
39. Bertrayal of trust
40. Recounting favours
41. Denying Allah's Decree
42. Listening (to) people's private conversations
43. Carrying tales
44. Cursing
45. Breaking contracts
46. Believing in fortune-tellers and astrologers
47. A woman's bad conduct towards her husband
48. Making statues and pictures
49. Lamenting, wailing, tearing the clothing, and doing other things of this sort when an affliction befalls
50. Treating others unjustly
51. Overbearing conduct toward the wife, the servant, the weak, and animals
52. Offending one's neighbour
53. Offending and abusing Muslims
54. Offending people and having an arrogant attitude toward them
55. Trailing one's garment in pride
56. Men's wearing silk and gold
57. A slave's running away from his master
58. Slaughtering an animal which has been dedicated to anyone other than Allah
59. To knowingly ascribe one's paternity to a father other than one's own
60. Arguing and disputing violently
61. Witholding excess water
62. Giving short weight or measure
63. Feeling secure from Allah's Plan
64. Offending Allah's righteous friends
65. Not praying in congregation but praying alone without an excuse
66. Persistently missing Friday Prayers without any excuse
67. Unsurping the rights of the heir through bequests
68. Deceiving and plotting evil
69. Spying for the enemy of the Muslims
70. Cursing or insulting any of the Companiions of Allah's Messenger
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Re: Answer to Athiesm

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IronSheik, whatever sins Swedes may commit it's still a better place to life than Somalia which is the point Dr. Yaxalow is trying to make. :up:
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union wrote:IronSheik, whatever sins Swedes may commit it's still a better place to life than Somalia which is the point Dr. Yaxalow is trying to make. :up:
Union, you know what he means don't act dumb you're not stupid.
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Re: Answer to Athiesm

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union wrote:IronSheik, whatever sins Swedes may commit it's still a better place to life than Somalia which is the point Dr. Yaxalow is trying to make. :up:
thats correct i atlist admit it unlike iron sheikh will not admit that. we all live in gaaalo countres( western world) because as you said are better place to life in compare somalia or saudi arabia .
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Re: Answer to Athiesm

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DR-YALAXOOW wrote:
union wrote:IronSheik, whatever sins Swedes may commit it's still a better place to life than Somalia which is the point Dr. Yaxalow is trying to make. :up:
thats correct i atlist admit it unlike iron sheikh will not admit that. we all live in gaaalo countres( western world) because as you said are better place to life in compare somalia or saudi arabia .
Haye so now you are holding onto the rope union throw you trying to save yourself out of this miss laakin that isn't the point we are discussing at all. You said sweden has 90-95% atheist and "GOD" hates Somalia cajiib so what has us living in the west got to do with anything. Did you not say this:
GOD HATES US nasiib xumo. i dont think either somalis we get better Reward the after life( aakhiro) because we done so much wrongs on this world.
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Re: Answer to Athiesm

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IronSheik wrote: 01. Associating anything with Allah
02. Murder
03. Practising magic
04. Not Praying
05. Not paying Zakat
06. Not fasting on a Day of Ramadan without excuse
07. Not performing Hajj, while being able to do so
08. Disrespect to parents
09. Abandoning relatives
10. Fornication and Adultery
if may i comment your top 10 worst sins and athiest countres..

athiest countres

1:- 01. Associating anything with Allah?? = atheist countres they dont associate anything whit god because they just totally denied existence of God. so your sin list is not part of that. 8-)
2:- Murder= Somalia have higher murder rate than athiest Sweden.
3:- Practising magic :lol: :lol: ATHIEST do not believe magic therefore they do not practise either, closest athiest countres practising magic is in MOVIES( LIKE HARRY POTTER) agian NO SIN.
4:-Not praying= yes they do not pray because they are athiest. okay i agree thats SIN.

05. Not paying Zakat? not true western countries like Sweden pay lot of money to the poor people of the world, so zakat means giving money to needy.
06. Not fasting on a Day of Ramadan without excuse = because they dont believe God
07. Not performing Hajj, while being able to do so = same
08. Disrespect to parents = they actually respect their parent.
09. Abandoning relatives = state take cares when your old anough and you can not take care yourself. citizens pay taxes to the state for doing that.
10. Fornication and Adultery = yes they do that but they do not rape. Somali and afghanistan and saudi arabia have higher Rape Rate than Finland, norway and Sweden.


so you see Somalia and afghistan who claime to muslims commit more Sins than sweden and norway.
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Allah tests those whom he loves and the worst tests are upon the Prophets and then the scholars and then the ones after...
Yalaxow this is what Rasullulah said, so if Somalia has so many problems this doesn't mean Allah forsaked us.
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DR-YALAXOOW wrote:athiesm exist. Athiest people actually are peacefull people. most peacefull countries in the world all of them have athiest population as a majorty.
forexample sweden 95% of swedhish people do not believe GOD. or higher power. still God loves sweden and atheist people because god gave sweden best world top 10 best countres in the world. and sweden is one of countries who have highest life expectancy of its people. one of ritchest countries in the world. :lol: :lol:

Somalia 100% beliiev god.
god GAVE US :lol:

poorest country in the world
most corrupt country in the world.
shortest life expentacy in the world Somalia and zimbabwe :lol: :D
most insecure country in the world-

GOD HATES US nasiib xumo. i dont think either somalis we get better Reward the after life( aakhiro) because we done so much wrongs on this world.
Kuma fahmin sxb, what point are you trying to prove? Basically what I got out of you is that you are indirectly saying that having no belief in illah is better than worshipping Allah, what type of Muslim are you then?
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Re: Answer to Athiesm

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grandpakhalif wrote:
Allah tests those whom he loves and the worst tests are upon the Prophets and then the scholars and then the ones after...
Yalaxow this is what Rasullulah said, so if Somalia has so many problems this doesn't mean Allah forsaked us.
I was trying to find this hadith, good job :up:

That finishes this argument right there.
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Re: Answer to Athiesm

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AhmedBoqor wrote: Kuma fahmin sxb, what point are you trying to prove? Basically what I got out of you is that you are indirectly saying that having no belief in illah is better than worshipping Allah, what type of Muslim are you then?
No i did not said that. I said atheist nations are more peaceful and prosperous than religious Nations.
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Re: Answer to Athiesm

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IronSheik wrote:
The Major Sins


[57. A slave's running away from his master
:lol: :lol: :lol:

What the heck is that???? . the man whos slaving me, and :shock: :shock: iam commiting Sin if i run away from that slave owner :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
common man: do you believe that??

Slavery itself is a Sin. so running away from your master is BIG BIG ajir. axsanaaaad :up: :up: take it from me :up: :up:
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Re: Answer to Athiesm

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Lâ hawla wa lâ quwwata illâ bi Allâh
Lâ hawla wa lâ quwwata illâ bi Allâh
Lâ hawla wa lâ quwwata illâ bi Allâh

War horta ninkan caadi mahaa no way. Haye they don't do 4-10 laakin it is all okay, kulaha they do not rape iyo they respect there parents and don't abandon there relatives. Abti do you think they are monitoring this forum and so you have to carry on your act, waryaa caadi iska dhig war maxaa waa hadlaysaa?
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DR-YALAXOOW wrote:
AhmedBoqor wrote: Kuma fahmin sxb, what point are you trying to prove? Basically what I got out of you is that you are indirectly saying that having no belief in illah is better than worshipping Allah, what type of Muslim are you then?
No i did not said that. I said atheist nations are more peaceful and prosperous than religious Nations.
Hadaba before anything else please tell me who told you this "fact"? So is the moral of the story now if you are atheist you live better life miyaa? What are you selling us brother?
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Re: Answer to Athiesm

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iron sheikh and you believe this ís a major Sin
A slave's running away from his master
about respecting their parent! and Rape.

firstable western society and us we have different culture, they put more in to personal freedom. forexample when you reach 18 badanaa dadka deggan wadamadan galbeedka waa ay ka guuraan guriga waalidkooda. second caruurta gacanta loola tago ama la garaaco according their laws waa sharci darro, marka waxaa laga yaabaa 12 years boy hadduu waalidkiisa ku af celiyo soomali ama carab inuu afka ku dhufto. laakiin qof swedhish ah waxaa laga yaabaa inaysan gacan saarin oo afka kala hadasho. wiilka soomaalida hadduu waalidkiiis ku af celiyo wuxuu ka baqayaa in la garaaco. marka ma la oran karaaa xushmeeynta waalidkiis uu u hayo inay tahay xushmeeyn sax ah ama cabsi uu ka cabsanayo waalidkiis.

dhaqankeena iyo dhaqankooda isku si uma arkaan kalmada ah respect ama xushmeeyn. waxaad fiirisaa markii ay weynaadaan caruurta wadamada aan deganahay tusaale sweden oo kale. waxaad arkeysaa xiliyada fasaxyada inay dhalinyarada wax ka barata meel ka fog magaaladii ay waalidkood daganaa ama ka shaqeeya inay u safraan waalidkood waqtina la qaataan. aniga waxaan u arkaa inay tahay xushmeeyn. waa run dhaqanadeena waa kala duwan yihiin xushmeeynta sideedaba isku si uma aragno.

and RAPE kufsiga. wadamada SOMALIA IYO AFGHNISTAN rape ama kufsiga waa uu ka baddan yahay tusaale finland ama sweden. taa waa xaqiiq.
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