shirib soo gal

[Shirib]

suufi's know how to teach kids the Quran

lol anyone can teach quran, all they say is here is your cashar baro, come back and pass

no some maclins just yell an hit u

[Alphanumeric]

Your name's no longer in bold.

yea someone got the axe

Lol, seriously? hyper also doesn't have a emboldened username. I didn't think it meant as much as it seems to.

[Shirib]

Your name's no longer in bold.

yea someone got the axe

Lol, seriously? hyper also doesn't have a emboldened username. I didn't think it meant as much as it seems to.

hyper is still a mod. I got the axe

strange times we live in.

[BlackVelvet]

it was good. Yesterday was the first day so we didn't go into too much depth, kinda went over the syllabus and definitions.

But we started talking about who God was and why we should worship him.

4 reasons in reverse order

4) Fear of hell fire
3) Jannah
2) To please, to know, get closer to Allah
1) Because he is Allah

but we will be getting more into detail as the weeks go on.

Could you explain number 2 a bit more?

[Shirib]

BV,

In the Quran Allah tells us on various occasions, that he is pleased when his slave worships him, and that one gets closer to their lord through worship and only through worship does one really understand Allah. So we should do acts of worship in order to please our lord, to get closer to him and to know him.

Does that answer it?

[BlackVelvet]

For a Muslim yes, for a non Muslim no.

I edit too in that case

[Alphanumeric]

Would "to know Allah" be to understand His attributes? Or is knowing implied through the acts of worship? Or is knowing a result of worship?

[Alchemist]

Shirib bro what's the name of the book your studying?

[Shirib]

For a Muslim yes, for a non Muslim no.

I edit too in that case

okay

I'm not sure what part a non Muslim wouldn't understand, can u elaborate

[Shirib]

Shirib bro what's the name of the book your studying?

I forget at the moment. i can tell u when I get home and look at it.

Would "to know Allah" be to understand His attributes? Or is knowing implied through the acts of worship? Or is knowing a result of worship?

It would be all 3.

[SultanOrder]

Would "to know Allah" be to understand His attributes? Or is knowing implied through the acts of worship? Or is knowing a result of worship?

all that bro

[BlackVelvet]

For a Muslim yes, for a non Muslim no.

I edit too in that case

okay

I'm not sure what part a non Muslim wouldn't understand, can u elaborate

Explaining why we need to worship Allah by giving reasons from the book that is from Allah. The non Muslim doesn't believe in Allah

[Alchemist]

Shirib ok bro

[Shirib]

For a Muslim yes, for a non Muslim no.

I edit too in that case

okay

I'm not sure what part a non Muslim wouldn't understand, can u elaborate

Explaining why we need to worship Allah by giving reasons from the book that is from Allah. The non Muslim doesn't believe in Allah

If I didn't say, Allah says in the Quran, and just said the explanation, would it make sense?

[Alphanumeric]

I don't understand, how can it possibly be all three? If it's the first, you can't worship/believe efficiently without knowing and understanding His attributes. If it's the second, then knowing Allah is simply an act of worship. If it's the third, no one can know Allah until they complete an act of worship, regardless how much they try to read and understand.

Unless you're implying that there is a process, where understanding leads to ibaadah. But then, knowing still isn't simply ibaadah.

Perhaps my understanding is wrong.