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Re: Walaalayaal, Daawada Sawirada ee Caasimada dalka ee ANGO

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:23 am
by BlackVelvet
HutuKing01 wrote:Cut Damn!! Angola is a fine land.
Puntland should follow that route, but first secede from the anti-progress wanlaweynia.
There's oil and resources all over Somalia man, we can't each cut off a piece and run off with it. There is strength in unity. All this time people have been fighting over peanuts, the bigger picture has been lost.

edit: LMAO if Somalis have been fighting this long and hard over peanuts, what will they do with this much money?

Re: Walaalayaal, Daawada Sawirada ee Caasimada dalka ee ANGO

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:01 am
by whitehartlane
I am not sure when, but not long ago i was reading an article about Angola being the first country in the history of man kind to bail financially out a bancrupt previous colonial master....

you hear of the financial problems of spain greece italy and there european bailouts .


have you ever wondered why portugal is never mentioned...........

portugal got bailed out by Angola....and in return angola got the opportunity to own few portogeese national companies..


and all that and more with far less oil than puntland let alone somalia.......and my brother made a very strong point, basicly he could have taken oman or bahrain as examples, but this thread is not about the well being of a nation but of the speed of change in a poor environment....so for those simple minded the whole point of the thread is to show you how fast barack obamas ''change'' actually can be.. and yes all somalis need to stand behind this project and hope for the best because if we wait for the UN, Turkey, igad etc to support us financially, we are in deep shit

Re: Walaalayaal, Daawada Sawirada ee Caasimada dalka ee ANGO

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:13 am
by UlteriorMotive
^^

Angolans bought Portuguese banks. How the tables have turned.

Mass migration from Angola to Portugal has not only stopped but is actually reversed now with migrants heading the other way.

I'm surprised Ethiopia hasn't attempted to intervere in PL and exploit them. They are usually the biggest haters when it comes to Somalia.

Re: Walaalayaal, Daawada Sawirada ee Caasimada dalka ee ANGO

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:19 am
by greenday
Monk-of-Mogadishu wrote:If Somalis can just keep their little asses together for the few years coming up they will be put into a shock-induced coma by what can happen for them.

I feel like a task force should be created in the country and diaspora that exists solely to distribute propaganda like this so the people can get behind this project. Instead of being forced to run to 5th-world shit holes like Yemen or Bulgaria, they should be gently reminded that they're sitting on a resource that can make Switzerland look poor next to Somalia.

I swore that if any obstacle, foreign or domestic, hindered the progress of oil I would take up arms and die fighting to get oil enlightenment back on track. This to me is more important, clearly more tangible, and more urgent than any so-called struggle that Somalis have ever prided themselves on taking up arms for.
I support this, if you shout someone thing loud enough and many times people start to believe, tell them peace has arrived and money is no worry and more and Somalis will be out of the pessimistic state, positive attitude can turn everything around :up:

Spread the message of yes we can :up:

Re: Walaalayaal, Daawada Sawirada ee Caasimada dalka ee ANGO

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:23 am
by Monk-of-Mogadishu
People need to realize that these construction projects happen overnight. If Somalia starts getting immediate funding (as the PL administration is trying to do right now) ahead of its oil discovery, we can start seeing cities like Bosaso and perhaps even Xamar looking like Luanda in a matter of months! Can you imagine those apartment blocks and highways dotting the landscape of Somali cities? It can happen so fast you won't even know what took place in-between! :o

This is not 5 years or 10 years from now, we can literally see a small Dubai or Doha inside Somalia by this time next year - it happens all the time and it is happening in cities around the world; Somalis have been broken and defeated by 20 years of running towards the most decrepit places on earth - they need to realize that their own country can literally buy whatever countries they are running to.

The future is here, and for the first time we can smell it. We are living, if all goes well, in the first generation of the entire history of the Somali race to have lived in abundance and not deprivation. Let's defend and drive towards this goal!

Re: Walaalayaal, Daawada Sawirada ee Caasimada dalka ee ANGO

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:54 am
by whitehartlane
i dont care where the capital is, i dont care who the president is or what tribe has the most consecutive high ranking governmental positions aslong as our leaders are focusing on the development of the nation from hargeysa to kismaayo and in the future with somalia having such influential economy djibouty jigjiga harar maandheere and garisa will be part of somalia...because we all know that ethiopian influence in the west will be insignificant compares to somali presence in the UN....... look at british/american relationship with {prior to the uprising} egypt in terms of her position within the arab league and the suez canal or saudi arabia even though they are excactly anything and everything against the western picture perfect fake democrazy yet they will seriously go head over heals in pleasing them...


everyone knows ogaden and NFD being part of ethiopian and is a joke ...

Re: Walaalayaal, Daawada Sawirada ee Caasimada dalka ee ANGO

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:02 am
by CismanMaxamud1
Based wrote:Unlike the majority of African peoples, the Somalis seem to be extremely business minded. One of the only benefits of the collapse of our country has been the entrepreneurial spirit we've developed, both in the diaspora and at home.

Without even access to this type of capital(again, $1.9 trillion), we've managed to develop an impressive and healthy private sector. We've got a telecommunication sector that apparently has some of the most advanced and affordable services in the world (let alone Africa), a number of construction companies that have literally rebuilt entire cities from rubble, and a media sector that's among the freest in the continent.

I can guarantee the development of secondary and tertiary industries with the development of the oil sector, from the agricultural sector that's widely tipped to have the potential of being a food exporter, to the longest coast in Africa that can support a billion dollar fishing industry.
:up:

Re: Walaalayaal, Daawada Sawirada ee Caasimada dalka ee ANGO

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:33 pm
by Monk-of-Mogadishu
macaanka! :up:

Re: Walaalayaal, Daawada Sawirada ee Caasimada dalka ee ANGO

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:23 pm
by grandpakhalif
I wonder what Ethiopia/Kenya's response will be to the oil project. will they be jealous and attempt to drive "competition" from Somalia straight into the ground? Those Habesha are always thinking.

Re: Walaalayaal, Daawada Sawirada ee Caasimada dalka ee ANGO

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:43 am
by Monk-of-Mogadishu
grandpakhalif wrote:I wonder what Ethiopia/Kenya's response will be to the oil project. will they be jealous and attempt to drive "competition" from Somalia straight into the ground? Those Habesha are always thinking.
Only Somalis worship Habeshas and inflate their power. Habesha are powerless. They derive any power from their confidence, and the defeatist nature of Somalis gives them that confidence. They are a nation of 90 million peasants, they are far less educated and far less urbanized and far less aware than the average Somali - this is a fact. Wallahi I watched a documentary where an African-American guy went to rural Amhara region and the savages didn't even know what other Africans look like, they were asking what this person was and where he came from. It was so embarrassing I could not believe it. Meanwhile, even the most baadiya/miyi Somalis have experience or know how to deal with people as diverse as Japanese and Norwegians. We are light-years ahead of Habesha in terms of intellectual power, we certainly always had more urban cities than them (Somalia has more cities above 200k population than all of Ethiopia combined), in fact Puntland alone has more major urban centers than the entire Amhara region which is Ethiopia's most advanced region. Ethiopia will not be able to do jack shit. There was a time when Egypt had influence over Libya but even Egypt could not do shit when the Libyans started to exploit their resources and Egypt has always been far more of a regional power than shitty Ethiopia. And forget about the Kenyans, those guys are diplomatically retarded, some ex-qurbajoog Shabaab teenagers are still embarrassing them in front of the world, Kenya is a joke both militarily and politically.

There is absolutely no threat from Ethiopia or Kenya. I think Faroole has maneuvered very well within the international community and achieved a position where Ethiopia's influence is decimated. Since he took office we have been witnessing the gradual disappearance of Ethiopian influence from Puntland.

Re: Walaalayaal, Daawada Sawirada ee Caasimada dalka ee ANGO

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:52 am
by Monk-of-Mogadishu
More fuel for the haters' hell pit. :up:

Re: Walaalayaal, Daawada Sawirada ee Caasimada dalka ee ANGO

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:31 am
by Murax
Lets not get ahead of ourselves though. The Oil has not been struck yet and as of now it is speculation.