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Enlightened~Sista wrote:You've taken me straight to my childhood. We would sing this song while our music teacher Mr Brown would play the guitar.

bareento wrote:Qora,

I thought u would rather sing Gimme Gimme Gimmee a man after midnight..

Shirib wrote:just wondering what Babylon and Zion have to do with Africa

Shirib I hope your trolling, unless your some ignorant dumb shit, you should know that African Americans during the civil rights largely led and organized by church reverends and leaders, used biblical stories, terminologies, and archetypes to highlight their plight and their struggles, against oppression. When they would sing about "marching to the freedom land", and "Go Down, Moses, When Israel was in Egypt’s land, Let my people go, Oppressed so hard they could not stand, Let my people go...", no one took themselves to be Isralites or Moses, but identified with their struggle and gained strength from their convictions.

qoraxeey wrote:

Shirib wrote:just wondering what Babylon and Zion have to do with Africa

well the same story of Prophet Musa and his people ... was enslaved by the egyptians ( faraho)

Musa? Musa had nothing to do with Babylon, which was in Iraq, his exodus was from Egypt
This song is referring to the old testament story when the Babylonians conquered Judea and destroyed the temple, and then took all took all the jews of account to Babylon as captives....the exciled jews used to sit on the banks of the river of Babylon and weep in remembrance of their destroyed temple...it's one of the more touching stories in the bible im not sure if it's in the quran too

Union is this a chance for you to show off what little knowledge you have accumulated, then I will excuse it on behalf of youthful eager to impress. If not, then just know your comment was unnecessary, and beside the point. Qoraxeey as most of us are aware of where babylon was. When she said "well the same story of musa..." she is trying to highlight how african americans use to identify their struggles of oppression in biblical terms just like how they commonly used musa and his struggle. It is that similarity she was highlighting. .

Ma taasaad la timid maanta

in primary school we used to sing, this litte light of mine am gonna let it shine, let it shine and he's got the whole world in his hands.

Perfect_Order wrote:Union is this a chance for you to show off what little knowledge you have accumulated, then I will excuse it on behalf of youthful eager to impress. If not, then just know your comment was unnecessary, and beside the point. Qoraxeey as most of us are aware of where babylon was. When she said "well the same story of musa..." she is trying to highlight how african americans use to identify their struggles of oppression in biblical terms just like how they commonly used musa and his struggle. It is that similarity she was highlighting. .

uu sheeg PO

Thuganomics wrote:Ma taasaad la timid maanta

its a good song ..nothing more to it

PO, the purpose of my post was not to "show of"---though I am the foremost biblical expert of this forum---but to shed light on the Jewish background of this cultural reference which I feel had not been getting enough attention. A lot of the stories in the bible/quran have their roots in the stories of the Jewish people, yet both the daughter religions despise the mother monotheistic faith in the most vicious and vile way. Can you tell me why oh so knowledgeable PO?

Black people always revere Babylon’s has the place of their captivity and make a parallel comparison with American.
If you remember nabuganassar king of Babylon how he sacked Jerusalem and took the jews as slaves. it was Sirius king of Persia who freed the jews from Babylonian slavery and send them back to Zion

In jewish history the Babylon era is very interesting, its was in this era they rewrote the tohrah, it was in this era the jews asked allah to give them one more chance and send a messiah, so when allah granted the jews their wish in lather time, he send jesus, the jews missed their opportunity
its was Ezra who leas the jews back to the promis land, he is like moses

In that in Babylon that jews learned sixir and they invented kabalah
Some say it was during this era allah send to angels who thought mankind sixir.

qoraxeey wrote:

By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down
ye-eah we wept, when we remembered Zion.

When the wicked
Carried us away in captivity
Required from us a song
Now how shall we sing the lord's song in a strange land





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Viva africans people who survived slavery in the americas

great song i use to have a kasset of this song 1980s listening in my room mogadishu. xasuus

union wrote:PO, the purpose of my post was not to "show of"---though I am the foremost biblical expert of this forum---but to shed light on the Jewish background of this cultural reference which I feel had not been getting enough attention. A lot of the stories in the bible/quran have their roots in the stories of the Jewish people, yet both the daughter religions despise the mother monotheistic faith in the most vicious and vile way. Can you tell me why oh so knowledgeable PO?

Saxib Islam is a branch from the Abrahamic Religion, which means they are actually sisters and at the same level in hierarchy as Judaism, while you can argue that christanity is a daughter of Judaism. Islam was not founded by Jews, nor does its scripture have within it in totality the jewish scripture.

GaajoUnit wrote:in primary school we used to sing, this litte light of mine am gonna let it shine, let it shine and he's got the whole world in his hands.

We use to sing "All things bright and beautiful iyo whole world in his hands"

Perfect_Order wrote:

union wrote:PO, the purpose of my post was not to "show of"---though I am the foremost biblical expert of this forum---but to shed light on the Jewish background of this cultural reference which I feel had not been getting enough attention. A lot of the stories in the bible/quran have their roots in the stories of the Jewish people, yet both the daughter religions despise the mother monotheistic faith in the most vicious and vile way. Can you tell me why oh so knowledgeable PO?

Saxib Islam is a branch from the Abrahamic Religion, which means they are actually sisters and at the same level in hierarchy as Judaism, while you can argue that christanity is a daughter of Judaism. Islam was not founded by Jews, nor does its scripture have within it in totality the jewish scripture.

Islam was founded thousands of years after Judaism and barrows heavily from Jewish ideas and tradition. It could be considered "same level in hierarchy" if it had more original thought, but that isn't the case. It's funny that though it was founded and propagated by Jews, Christianity has deviated from its Jewish roots enough so that ultra religious Jews consider mosques acceptable as places for prayer but even setting foot inside a Christian church is forbidden.