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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:32 am
by RED STAR
O.K..........Somalies can get up to the most digraceful habids, Like force marriage, Mutalation and clan killng.

BUT......................marrying their daughter to RAPEISTS, i dont think so.

Why dont you proof this and post EVIDANCE. Smile

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:35 am
by Mowhawk
Why don't you talk to elders and ask? Or, you want me to present to you a case study? Do your own homework.

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:39 am
by Navy9
I don't know about the trends in the Somali culture but i have seen that same concept in some of the black & white egyptian movies. In upper egypt, they even kill the poor girl (what a shame).

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:47 am
by Mowhawk
[quote="Navy9"]I don't know about the trends in the Somali culture but i have seen that same concept in some of the black & white egyptian movies. In upper egypt, they even kill the poor girl (what a shame).[/quote]

Navy

Salaam sister and what a wierd Avator!!

FGM and rape-marriages, what else do we inherit from the Egyptians? Yes, from Mogadiscio, Bosaso to Hargeisa, most people that I talked to were in favour of that concept. I'm amazed at how we have little knowledge of it. Maybe those with knowledge are embarrassed to come out and explain it, just like FGM.

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:57 am
by dhuusa_deer
In primitive society like somalis it is the best thing for the raped girl since high importance is placed on girl's virginity till marriage. Sad though.

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:15 am
by Mowhawk
[quote="dhuusa_deer"]In primitive society like somalis it is the best thing for the raped girl since high importance is placed on girl's virginity till marriage. Sad though.[/quote]

Dhuusa

Yes saaxib. we already covered your own neanderthal's morals above, but how about if you chat this issue with your own Somali elders? Does it exist today? Yes, it does and as you said, " it is sad".

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:17 am
by RED STAR
THERE YOU GO.........NO EVIDANCE.




JUST LIES.................AND MORE LIES!!!!!!!!

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:20 am
by dhuusa_deer
Mowhawk,

I don't know if it still exists today. Actually I didn't think it existed at all until I read your post, maybe I should've included that in my last post. Not surprised becuz it is common fact among third world cultures. I know its common practice in other regions like South East Asia, africa and some Mid-Easter nations. Nevertheless, its something that should be stamped out of our culture along with clanism, intolerance and ignorance.

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:27 am
by Mowhawk
[quote="RED STAR"]THERE YOU GO.........NO EVIDANCE.

JUST LIES.................AND MORE LIES!!!!!!!![/quote]

RED STAR

Lies, lies and lies. That means Somalia and Somali culture are proven to be above any self-criticism. What you are calling for is et us all chew chew qaad and behave accordingly. There has never been a static culture, and it always evolves according to the contemperory moral standards. Like FGM, it is not Islamic but exists,talk to any traditional Somali. It is real, and don't ignore, unless you are a guy who has a stake.

dhuusa

First, is admitting that the problem exist, and then only can we eradicate. Is there any other thing wrong with Somali culture. Before just lumpng everything into tribal. Can't we understand that this is part of the tribal evil habits=culture. Tribal honour=family honour.

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:31 am
by RED STAR
Stop the B.S talk...........Post the evidance and link.



If not i regard it as a make up story. Which is likely it is.



**POST THE EVIDANCE........... Idea **

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:43 am
by Mowhawk
[quote="RED STAR"]Stop the B.S talk...........Post the evidance and link.



If not i regard it as a make up story. Which is likely it is.



**POST THE EVIDANCE........... Idea **[/quote]

You seem to be the thickest human that I ever engaged, and if you are not Somali just keep out of this topic, and if you are, mate you are a thick one. Please do your own home work, and ask older Somalis. Just Do It, like the Nike Ad. Many weird traditional stuff, if you may ask me, but not known in the written part, but part of our actual culture. Have you been to Somalia, or have Somali parents? Yes how about your other delussional myths of the perfect Somali culture, FGM in Somalia is a hoax. Did you grow up with a non-Somali foster family?

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:45 am
by AMAT-ALLAH
Mowhawk dont hold your breath bro that this aint a child lost from the UK forums... Rolling Eyes

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Hey guess who im talkin to now Mowie..your second wifey Bedra! Razz --Hasnt the divorce papers yet come through horta....? Shocked Laughing

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:53 am
by Mowhawk
[quote="AMAT-ALLAH"]Mowhawk dont hold your breath bro that this aint a child lost from the UK forums... Rolling Eyes

Hey guess who im talkin to now Mowie..your second wifey Bedra! Razz --Hasnt the divorce papers yet come through horta....? Shocked Laughing[/quote]

AMAT-ALLAH

First, I don't discriminate. And secondly, it doesnt need an Einstein to figure out that h/she is from Pommyland.

Bedra kulahaa, Laughing she is nowadays in a burqa with John Wayne skills with guns. Laughing

You are a maverick sister. Laughing

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:08 am
by AMAT-ALLAH
Hey just b/c they visit the UK forum doesnt make them a pommy, i would have guess s/he is a dumb ozzy, but thats just my interpretation Rolling Eyes .

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lool at john wayne...more like Xenia the warrior princess--Minus the clevage ofcourse! Embarassed Laughing Laughing

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:51 am
by optimist_1
Mowhawk you make as if it happens often it may have happened several times but it is not a normal thing.

Mowhawk i never heard of it. The man deserves punishment and under Islamic views he should be punished. I guess that the tribal leaders let the two decide (i think) if the guy wants the woman he is allowed to marry her. The women will be persuaded by the elders otherwise there will be habaar from the dad or the mom or the abti Laughing