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Re: Our endangered names

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:30 am
by Hyperactive
seems it depends one's cultural or educational background. and also easy for somalis to adopt arabic names instead other neighbours country names, such ethiopian or sawahili names. i guess cause of islamic culture we share with arabs that making us feel comfy to adopt their names.

Re: Our endangered names

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:31 am
by BlackVelvet
GaajoUnit wrote:
BlackVelvet wrote:Not all Somali names are Arabic or derivatives of Arabic names. There are many a thread which have been made over the years and there are very many Somali names which are just that, Somali.

i said some :mrgreen:
You included the beloved name "Farax" got me worked up :lol:

Re: Our endangered names

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:33 am
by DisplacedDiraac
I disagree.. I think Somali names are slowly becoming more popular nowadays.. It's 'Muslim' names that are on the decline.. :|
But for some reason modern Arab names are very much on the rise also.. :|

I know plenty of under 10s named warsame, lafti, shire, bootan, ladan, Muxsiimo, aasli.. :up:

Re: Our endangered names

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:35 am
by Lamagoodle
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Hyper, yes they refer to God etc but it is not a muslim name. I have friends who are christians and their names are Abduallah, Yasin. In fact, one of the most senior bishops in the Syrian church is called Abdullah.

Blackvelvet and Fighter,
Shuun and shumeey are somali names :lol: :lol:
There are no young girls called Ayaan, Ubax etc. Nowadays it is some nonsense from a movie.

WestLondonshorty;
Really? I haven't seen that! All I am witnessing is Sudeys, Ishwaaq, and some other difficult names.

Blackvelvet;
sprechen Sie Deutsch?

Re: Our endangered names

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:39 am
by Hyperactive
lama, it's islamic to us, when muslim names Abdullah they mean Allah which is islamic.

when another arab names hassan could mean something else or just a name to them, but for a muslim meand Hassan ib Ali rathiah Allah 3anhu. so it's what the person who naming means those names to them. not if gaal named Abdullah or not. you know Allah is creator of the earth and many believe in Allah. if gaal named mohammed. ma maga'an oka tageyna? adeer be reasonable bal.

Re: Our endangered names

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:40 am
by Advo
I for one am glad I don't have those super strong Somali name because most of them cannot be pronounced by ajnabis and I wouldve resorted to using initials growing up or something. Guled, Hirsi, Cigaal etc aren't bad but imagine growing up with one of those long multi tripple vowel ones :lol: :lol:

I admit, I do have a unique super cool Somali last name, infact I go by that sometimes :D :up:

Re: Our endangered names

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:42 am
by Lamagoodle
hyperactive wrote:lama, it's islamic to us, when muslim names Abdullah they mean Allah which is islamic.

when another arab names hassan could mean something else or just a name to them, but for a muslim meand Hassan ib Ali rathiah Allah 3anhu. so it's what the person who naming means those names to them. not if gaal named Abdullah or not. you know Allah is creator of the earth and many believe in Allah. if gaal named mohammed. ma maga'an oka tageyna? adeer be reasonable bal.
Hyper, that was what I thought until I met these Lebanese syrian christians who were called Abdullah. They even say, Allah akbar, insha allah.

The only islamic name is Mohamed, Ahmed.

Advocate,
Great! I have a typical arabic name. I am thinking of changing it to a somali one

Re: Our endangered names

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:47 am
by Hyperactive
lamagoodle, even mohammed, before prophet there was as in the history books 7 people known before him in jahilia. prophet was an arab and of course had a name. but became icon of islamic names cause of that. the only prophet that Allah named directly Allah told us in quran is prophet yahya.

no one can stop any arab person to name mohammed if they want. importance here is what means to us when we name our children mohammed. is our prophet's name to us. also fatima was a name before islam , arabs in jahila named that name. has arabic meaning and any one who likes the meaning can name it. so yes they are islamic icon names now and islamic to us.

Re: Our endangered names

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:50 am
by Lamagoodle
hyperactive wrote:lamagoodle, even mohammed, before prophet there was as in the history books 7 people known before him in jahilia. prophet was an arab and of course had a name. but became icon of islamic names cause of that. the only prophet that Allah named directly Allah told us in quran is prophet yahya.

no one can stop any arab person to name mohammed if they want. importance here is what means to us when we name our children mohammed. is our prophet's name to us. also fatima was a name before islam , arabs in jahila named that name. has arabic meaning and any one who likes the meaning can name it. so yes they are islamic icon names now and islamic to us.
True, Mohamed was just another name then, but my guess is that it today is a muslim name.

Fatima is a common spanish name - a footprint of islam .

Don't make the mistake I made in the past saaxib. Hassan, Abdullah, Aden, Said etc are arabic names and not muslim names. There was this CEO of a big US car manufacture- a lebanese christian who was called Hassan.

Re: Our endangered names

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:53 am
by Hyperactive
lama, i dont care who lebanese named Haasan , Ali etc. as matter of fact my tailor is christian qubti egyptian named hassan. also my father named my younger brother Hassan cause after islamic icon Hassan ibn Ali rathiya Allah 3anhu. so to us is islamic name.

ps; i wont make your mistake cause arabic is my first language and i know where you heading with all this. you only confusing your self adeer and people who dont have strong islamic and arabic history understanding :)

Re: Our endangered names

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:02 am
by Lamagoodle
hyperactive wrote:lama, i dont care who lebanese named Haasan , Ali etc. as matter of fact my tailor is christian qubti egyptian named hassan. also my father named my younger brother Hassan cause after islamic icon Hassan ibn Ali rathiya Allah 3anhu. so to us is islamic name.

ps; i wont make your mistake cause arabic is my first language and i know where you heading with all this. you only confusing your self adeer and people who dont have strong islamic and arabic history understanding :)
Hyper, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I am not heading anywhere (don't be like Alpha and Arabmann who see religion in everything people write; they accused me of being anti-wadaad for instance). I am first and foremost a somali ( I cannot change it) and as such I will love to promote somali name.

My dear friend, if you are equating islam with Arabs then you are wrong. There are more muslims who are non-arabs.

Mohamed is an islamic name; you will never find someone else with another religion called Mohamed. There are some other names which have islamic connotations . But, Hassan, Ibrahim, Abdullah are not islamic names.

Re: Our endangered names

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:07 am
by fighter
Lamgoodle wrote:Fatima is a common spanish name - a footprint of islam .
Al-Andalus is one Arabized place. Spanish people have black hair due to the Arab genes in them. Thousands of words in the Spanish language are words from the Arab language. More than a dozen cities in Spain are of Arab origin (Madrid derived from the word al-Magriit or "the source of water").

Re: Our endangered names

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:08 am
by Hyperactive
you are wrong dear lama. cause they dont name it cause they dont want it. mohammed is just like Omar to us, only mohammed as is our prophet and omar is his sahabah ra. and yeah i started to see where you heading. we have experiences here. when one wants to attack islamic; they go first to attack anything may or may not consider islamic or arabic. before they come to their true colours. you're not first or last :lol:

any ways; im somali too and i know untill my 4th name and none of it are somali names : ali, abdulrahman, hassan and by the way my name is Abdulrauf and my dad is Abdulhakiim. :) we name those names not cause they are arabic meaning names but is islamic to us and im sure most somali muslims do that cause of their islamic iconic.

ps; ibrahim is from our quran name of sayidina ibrahim. that's arabic virsion of abrahim. ibrahim is islamic to us. and by the way in quran says : he wants christian or jew but a muslim"

and ypu're right, we call many muslim names that not arabic ; such salman as salman al farisi. yahya, ibrahim, isaak, ya'aqoob, musa etc from Allah's messengers. also mariam, aasia, sarah .

Re: Our endangered names

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:16 am
by Lamagoodle
Fighter, everything you said is true. But, today one cannot claim that Fatima is a muslim name simply because it is also used by christians. In Malta, there is a religious order called the church of Fatima.

Hyper,
I think you are confusing semitic names with religious names; Ibrahim, Isac, Jacob, Maryan, Benamin etc are names common to Islam, Christianity and Judaism because of their origins in the middle east.

My name is also arabic. My father is Mohamed (islamic name) but except for that my family tree contains arabic names. I am thinking of changing my name to a somali one. It is identity.

:lol: May I suggest you change yours to " Meygaag" a tree with a hard bark

Think in terms of unique names guys.

BTW, did you know that in Iraq your first name could determine whether you are a sunni or a Shia; Ali, Hussein, Hassan etc are typical shia names while Omar, Osman and Abubakar are usually sunni names

Re: Our endangered names

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:20 am
by Hyperactive
you are wrong lama again. for us we dont even know what samatic is; we got it from our quran which is islamic. the guy from qarijogood that named isaak doesnt know samic but it read from quran. and yes it's islamic to us no doubt for that. how you see it is up to you. but when i name my son Ali, im naming after sayidina Ali which is islamic iconic to me.