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Re: Ph.D. on Welfare

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:12 pm
by Tuushi
There`s degree in Beatles,the freaking band.

There`s someone i know,almost done with university (4th year student) and every time i try to remember what is studying,i never come up with an answer.

Unless one knows where they went there(with a goal in hand before ),the most degrees are just pillars.

Re: Ph.D. on Welfare

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:18 pm
by Alphanumeric
Tuushi wrote:There`s degree in Beatles,the freaking band.

There`s someone i know,almost done with university (4th year student) and every time i try to remember what is studying,i never come up with an answer.

Unless one knows where they went there(with a goal in hand before ),the most degrees are just pillars.
Pillars for what?

Re: Ph.D. on Welfare

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:20 pm
by Tuushi
Alphanumeric wrote:
Tuushi wrote:There`s degree in Beatles,the freaking band.

There`s someone i know,almost done with university (4th year student) and every time i try to remember what is studying,i never come up with an answer.

Unless one knows where they went there(with a goal in hand before ),the most degrees are just pillars.
Pillars for what?
For higher studies.Just a bridge.

Re: Ph.D. on Welfare

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:27 pm
by Alphanumeric
Ah, yes. I agree.

University is for someone who wants to be a citable expert in that field, or aid in research projects. We need people like that, but it's important to understand the purpose of university before investing in it.

Re: Ph.D. on Welfare

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:33 pm
by Tuushi
It didnt used to be like that and someone forgot to pass the memo to the younger generation.

I think the business and profit making part of the universities overtook the whole process.

Re: Ph.D. on Welfare

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:37 pm
by Alphanumeric
No, it has little to do with the universities themselves. They are simply taking advantage of the ridiculous demand. The problem lies with the notion driven by society that without a university degree, one is guaranteed a life of poverty, and that with a degree one is guaranteed a career. High schools do not adequately address reality when it comes to higher education.

Re: Ph.D. on Welfare

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:41 pm
by Tuushi
Alphanumeric wrote:No, it has little to do with the universities themselves. They are simply taking advantage of the ridiculous demand. The problem lies with the notion driven by society that without a university degree, one is guaranteed a life of poverty, and that with a degree one is guaranteed a career. High schools do not adequately address reality when it comes to higher education.
How do u explain universities needing a degree before u can apply for a major? Such as med school.How did the change come abt,i wonder.It used to be,high school to university.Who made it to become university to university again?

Re: Ph.D. on Welfare

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:42 pm
by Adali
Engineering, Math and Science(Biochemistry, chemistry, physics etc) :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:
Medicine, Dentistry, Nursing(other health professions Midwifery, Radiology etc) :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:
Law, Economics, Business and Accounting :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

others are good, but these will not only land you a job, but are high paying and both the domestic and foreign demand is high.

Re: Ph.D. on Welfare

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:52 pm
by Alphanumeric
Tuushi wrote:
Alphanumeric wrote:No, it has little to do with the universities themselves. They are simply taking advantage of the ridiculous demand. The problem lies with the notion driven by society that without a university degree, one is guaranteed a life of poverty, and that with a degree one is guaranteed a career. High schools do not adequately address reality when it comes to higher education.
How do u explain universities needing a degree before u can apply for a major? Such as med school.How did the change come abt,i wonder.It used to be,high school to university.Who made it to become university to university again?

Blame these people

http://www.afmc.ca/index-e.php

Re: Ph.D. on Welfare

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:11 pm
by eliteSomali
Did'n't read the whole shyt but do they mention whether she has a minor in another field? She needs to search for jobs that match her degree elsewhere and relocate. Though not necessarily her fault, but a P.hD holder relying on well fare just subsist is indeed habaar.

Re: Ph.D. on Welfare

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:15 pm
by Alphanumeric
eliteSomali wrote:Did'n't read the whole shyt but do they mention whether she has a minor in another field? She needs to search for jobs that match her degree elsewhere and relocate. Though not necessarily her fault, but a P.hD holder relying on well fare just subsist is indeed habaar.
I don't know why she's not working as a tour guide in Europe. With a Ph.D in medieval history, she could be doing an awesome job in a field she loves.

Re: Ph.D. on Welfare

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:28 pm
by Tuushi
Alphanumeric wrote:
Tuushi wrote:
Alphanumeric wrote:No, it has little to do with the universities themselves. They are simply taking advantage of the ridiculous demand. The problem lies with the notion driven by society that without a university degree, one is guaranteed a life of poverty, and that with a degree one is guaranteed a career. High schools do not adequately address reality when it comes to higher education.
How do u explain universities needing a degree before u can apply for a major? Such as med school.How did the change come abt,i wonder.It used to be,high school to university.Who made it to become university to university again?

Blame these people

http://www.afmc.ca/index-e.php
Would they be considered society,the government or the universities? :lol:

Re: Ph.D. on Welfare

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:29 pm
by eliteSomali
Alphanumeric wrote:
eliteSomali wrote:Did'n't read the whole shyt but do they mention whether she has a minor in another field? She needs to search for jobs that match her degree elsewhere and relocate. Though not necessarily her fault, but a P.hD holder relying on well fare just subsist is indeed habaar.
I don't know why she's not working as a tour guide in Europe. With a Ph.D in medieval history, she could be doing an awesome job in a field she loves.
I don't know man. I guess she was trying to major in something beyond monitory value; perhaps something she 'loves' even if that field isn't in high demand. People gotta learn to reconcile the two ideas nd if not, then get as close as you can. Choosing one or the either will yield you failure.

Re: Ph.D. on Welfare

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:02 pm
by udun
The richest men and women in the world are neither engineers nor doctors. People who have studied economics and business are the ones that make it to the top. That is a reality that no one can deny!

Re: Ph.D. on Welfare

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:34 pm
by FAH1223
Shirib wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:^ people do not understand what is going on here. They blame the graduates for picking "useless" degrees instead of looking at how corrupt the system is.
what system? Please help us understand
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