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Re: I am thinking of Suing My Company, Is it worthy

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Adun,

Sxb the burden of Proof is on the employer and not the employee. The employee has to establish Prima farcie of Employment discrimination.
Employee's prima facie case #16
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A "prima facie case" is what an employee has to prove in a discrimination case in order to require an employer to explain itself in court. It's that minimum set of facts that a plaintiff has to include in a court complaint and be prepared to actually prove.

Because we're talking about minimums, I better make it clear that an employee better have more than this minimum if she actually expects to win a case.

I'll talk about three basic ways to make out a prima facie case.

First is when the employer has a "facial" policy of unlawful discrimination. For example, the employer has stated a policy that it will hire only females to be food servers. This is an extremely rare situation because employers rarely say such things out loud.

Second is where there is "direct evidence" or what you might call a smoking gun. For example, the employer says to an applicant "I'm not going to hire you because you're not white." Again, this is rare, but sometimes it happens. It's amazing how often an employee can prove that an employer said something like "Let's get rid of all the old employees" or "We've already hired one Mexican and that's enough."

Third, is "circumstantial evidence." Tons of cases fall into this category, and things can get a bit complicated.

The US Supreme Court had a famous case in which a man claimed he wasn't hired because he was black. The Court said this is what he had to show:

He was a member of a protected class (in this case, he was black).

He applied for the job, and the job was open.


He had the minimum qualifications for the job.


He was not hired.


The job remained open, or a person of another race was hired for it.

That framework became the model for all other circumstantial evidence discrimination claims: race, sex, religion, national origin, age, disability, whatever.

It also became the framework for cases involving not just failure to hire, but also discharge, demotion, transfer, suspension, and so on.

Of course, for each specific case the four parts of the proof might need to be adjusted to fit the different situation. For example, in a discharge case, the employee might have to prove that she was meeting the employer's reasonable expectations. In a case claiming discharge because of age, the employee might have to prove that someone significantly younger was kept on the job.

Notice that the Supreme Court made it pretty easy for a plaintiff to make out a prima facie case. But that doesn't necessarily mean the employee will win. It really means only that the employer must now put on some evidence that she was fired (or not hired, etc.) for a "legitimate non-discriminatory reason." (If the employer simply has no such evidence, then the employee wins, but that practically never happens.)
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Re: I am thinking of Suing My Company, Is it worthy

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Caburiye,

Women themselves are in the protected class. As long as the company informed you on their decision to hire someone else, you are still employed within the same company, you have not been fired, and you have not been given a poor performance review, I don't see how you can easily win this case.

One thing you can do is a review of the said company's hiring and promotion practices. If all of the promoted are caucasians, you can go after them; if however, the promoted are a mixed package from all ethnic groups, the chance of you winning the case is not easy.

Remember when you file the case, HR will setup a meeting, and here is the what the manager will say: "I apologize you seeing my decision the way you did, I did not mean any prejudice against you. At the time, based on the needs of my unit and the interview that I have conducted, I have seen that the other candidate was better fit for the need of my department. I look at your resume/application and your educational background, and you are great, but at the time of the interview, the impression that I have gotten and the review that I have conducted, I have chosen the other candidate." The manager apologizing is all that the company needs. They want to make you look unreasonable. My advice is don't allow them to mistreat you. They may even promote two more black fellas, one Indian, one oriental, and several more women just to defend the upcoming lawsuit.

I still think you should document it thru Office of Ethics. If they come after you, that is when you start going to legal way, and you will have a better chance of winning. If and when you start this process, make sure you took a voice recorder for every meeting you are being invited. You need to examine the laws of the state you live in in regards to voice recording. In my state, as long as you are invited, you can voice record them.

I am with you bro, good luck.
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Re: I am thinking of Suing My Company, Is it worthy

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abdi.ismail wrote:
udun wrote:Caburiye, let me give you a word of advice. It is hard to prove discrimination lawsuits in the courts. Hiring a less qualified white female employee does not make them a racist. Companies hire whomever they want and that does not always depend on their school backgrounds. In the company that I work for, there are many high paying jobs filled by people who have BS degrees or 2-year college diplomas, where you have people with PHDs and MBAs sitting in lower positions. A degree does not qualify you for a better position than someone with fewer education qualifications.

Keep in mind the lawsuits that you can easily win are retaliation lawsuits. You can file the complaint within the company, and once they come back and retaliate against you, that is when you can file the lawsuit. Make sure your complaint goes to the Office of Ethics. Keep in mind HR will always side with the manager. You would look reasoble to a judge when you demonstarte you try to contest and resolve the issue within the company. You will also have a good chance of winning the case once the supervisor and management start retialiating against you. But before you even try to contest, make sure you have as much documentation as possible, witnesses who can testify on your behalf if worst comes to shove, and you need to seek guidance from employment lawyer.

You should also investigate within the company if there is an Islamophobia involved in this case, and remember you need a hard evidence.

You need to build your evidence if you are going to contest this in legal terms, and remember the burden of proof is on you and not on them. Good luck!
Do you study employment law or are you just building your case just in case the FBI pay you a visit? :lol:
Why FBI? Do you work for the saddexda Xaraf Mr Abdi.Ismail? You're one hell of a dangerous fella :lol:
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