The truth about Khaatumo

[ZubeirAwal]

dee he like to show all the snet member his sexy ass infront of everyone

[Conqueror]

A few individuals will not hold a whole clan as hostage, Dhulbahante are united under Khaatumo every Tom, Diick and Harry knows that. You are nothing wax aad tahaay ma jira. A lone insignificant voice.

You consider these individuals as insignificant, yet you give them the powers to hold Dhulbahante as "hostages".

[Executive]

You consider these individuals as insignificant, yet you give them the powers to hold Dhulbahante as "hostages".

I said they will not! you are the one advocating for Xaabsade and Abdisamad At least they are getting paid for holding positions in other mamuls, What are you gaining? Definitely not the support of your people, if you are dhulbahante.

[Conqueror]

You consider these individuals as insignificant, yet you give them the powers to hold Dhulbahante as "hostages".

I said they will not! you are the one advocating for Xaabsade and Abdisamad At least they are getting paid for holding positions in other mamuls, What are you gaining? Definitely not the support of your people, if you are dhulbahante.

How am I advocating for them? I'm shining light on the outcomes of Khaatumo Kow Shir in London. One of the Requirements of Shirka Khaatumo 2 to be effective in Caaro Dhulbahante (before Taleex was chosen as a location) was to bring all the sides together under one roof.

Taasii miyee dhacday? Waa mayaa!

[Executive]

Shiirka ka been sheege for your own agenda. You don't want to get the truth into your sick head.

[Conqueror]

Shiirka ka been sheege for your own agenda. You don't want to get the truth into your sick head.

This Shir didn't happen 100 years ago. It happened few months ago. No Dhulbahante can lie about what really happened. You're the one who said Cabdisamaad Ali Shire waxaa u diiday Faroole.

[Buckshot]

Udun waxaan ku bararujaynia iinusaan marnaba ka leexaan fikarkiisa kuu aadan Puntland. He is on the right path. Sii socod iyo soo socod looma bahna. 1998 waxaan ku miidoobnay iinaanu waax laqaybsano walaleehayn e Harti, Tanade iyo Yusuf Daarod. If Dhulbahante is Anti-Faroole, then they have to create a Political Party to overthrow Faroole and take over Puntland's leadership along with whoever is going to support them. Markaa Udun, keep up the good work.

[Executive]

This Shir didn't happen 100 years ago. It happened few months ago. No Dhulbahante can lie about what really happened. You're the one who said Cabdisamaad Ali Shire waxaa u diiday Faroole.

Dhulbahante weey midobeen, Your whole argument holds no weight, and you are person lying about the conference. You can not comprehend the fact that a former PL minister became president, that there were low rank officals, and ex members of SL & PL at the conference. You can not for a minute respect the desires and the self-determination of Beesha Dhulbahante. I remember how you used to undermine the overwhelming support of Hooganska SSC with your previous username, you are doing the same thing with Khaatumo now. Thats why I said you are a lone voice, advocating for caalasha oo shaqeeystayaal that are on PL or SL payroll. These men you are talking about do not respect Khaatumo or acknowledge it at all. They don't have any public support whatsoever. You are advocating for a small club of individuals that can not reconcile their hunger for money/positions with the desire and interest of reer Khaatumo. They see Khaatumo as trouble-makers, terrorists etc.

[Conqueror]

Dhulbahante weey midobeen, Your whole argument holds no weight, and you are person lying about the conference. You can not comprehend the fact that a former PL minister became president, that there were low rank officals, and ex members of SL & PL at the conference. You can not for a minute respect the desires and the self-determination of Beesha Dhulbahante. I remember how you used to undermine the overwhelming support of Hooganska SSC with your previous username, you are doing the same thing with Khaatumo now. Thats why I said you are a lone voice, advocating for caalasha oo shaqeeystayaal that are on PL or SL payroll. These men you are talking about do not respect Khaatumo or acknowledge it at all. They don't have any public support whatsoever. You are advocating for a small club of individuals that can not reconcile their hunger for money/positions with the desire and interest of reer Khaatumo. They see Khaatumo as trouble-makers, terrorists etc.

Yaa la miideeyey? Shacabka Dhulbahante were always Anti-Somaliland, however sympathetic to Puntland, despite Faroole's rants. Haadi aad tahay qof ruun sheegiya, bal wiir i sheeg qodobadi kaa soo baxay Shirki Kowaad e Khaatumo e lagu qabtay London? Somaliland iyo Puntland haa wada siimin. This is the greatest fallacy of Ali Khalif supporters like yourself. Bal maxaa isku keenay Eydoor iyo niman Daarod Ismacail ah o kula dhashtay? If you have no cuqdad for Puntland, then you would understand that Faroole doesn't represent Beesha Majerteen or even Puntland in general.

This isn't about advocation for a political entity, it's simply putting light on how Shikrii Labaad e Khaatumo that took place in Taleex was hijacked. This is about how Ali Khalif and is G-15 crew administered, orchestrated and chosen the outcome of Shirki Labaad e Khaatumo in Taleex long before the Shir even begun.

These men you are talking about do not respect Khaatumo or acknowledge it at all.

Why should they? The G-15 undermined the legitimacy and importance of having ALL Dhulbahante in different Political Entities to come together and be part of the Shir. They were not invited and in some cases (Those from Puntland) were arrested.

They don't have any public support whatsoever.

Are you sure about that? I know for a fact there is an overwhelmingly large Dhulbahante population inside and outside of Soomaaliya that are Anti-Faroole, put consider themselves Puntlanders. Also, there are an overwhelimingly large Dhulbahante population that are Anti-Khaatumo for how it was created and distributed by the G-15 (Not Odoyaal Dhaqameed).

[Executive]

You are a lone voice oo ciidlo ka qaylinayoo Dhulbahante does not oppose Khaatumo, you are delusional, no one is gonna support you for lying about the conference. Advocating for caloosha oo shaqeeysta yaal who have nothing to do with the region is not gonna gain you support either. You are even undermining the Dhulbahante elders let alone the people, how desperate. You can go sit next to uncle Faroole and Abdisamad in Garowe and wish for better days. Puntland has nothing to do with Khaatumo and it had nothing to do with the region before the declaration of Khaatumo. Khaatumo consultation happened at the high level and it was a lengthy process with high level of involvement, somali oo dhaan ayaa marqaati ka aah, you can change or make up thing as much as you want but it won't change anything. We all witnessed the long process that topic place, your assertions are meaningless and untrue.

[Conqueror]

You are a lone voice oo ciidlo ka qaylinayoo Dhulbahante does not oppose Khaatumo, you are delusional, no one is gonna support you for lying about the conference. Advocating for caloosha oo shaqeeysta yaal who have nothing to do with the region is not gonna gain you support either. You are even undermining the Dhulbahante elders let alone the people, how desperate. You can go sit next to uncle Faroole and Abdisamad in Garowe and wish for better days. Puntland has nothing to do with Khaatumo and it had nothing to do with the region before the declaration of Khaatumo. Khaatumo consultation happened at the high level and it was a lengthy process with high level of involvement, somali oo dhaan ayaa marqaati ka aah, you can change or make up thing as much as you want but it won't change anything. We all witnessed the long process that topic place, your assertions are meaningless and untrue.

Again, you didn't answer my question. Bakhbakhda mel iska dhig. Let's touch the truth.

Qodobadii Shirki kowaad e London maxee ahayen? Maxaa lagu heeshiyey iin la sameeyo marka Shirka Labaad e Khaatumo la qabto?

[Executive]

Qodobadii Shirki kowaad e London maxee ahayen? Maxaa lagu heeshiyey iin la sameeyo marka Shirka Labaad e Khaatumo la qabto?

The conference followed due process. Everything was in line with the agreements of Khaatumo Consultative Conference I, I told you in your first couple of posts that you were lying. Just cause Xaabsade and Abdisamad did not agree with conference, and did want to take part, that does not delegitimize the Khaatumo process. You are giving legitimate to a few individuals who are disconnected from the people and whole region. Again, you are trying to find inconsistencies so that you can advocate for the caaloosha oo shaqeeystayaal.

[Conqueror]

Waxaan ku waydiyey, haadi lagu balamay London iin la iskugu keeno raga Dhulbahante e kala jooga Hergeisa iyo Garowe madasha shirka Khaatumo II o mid walba o fikar siyaadsadeed wada la hoor keeno uumada Dhulbahante markana laga wada haadlo daanta Dhulbahante, how did it happen that not a single Dhulbahante from Somaliland side or Puntland side was invited to Shirkii Khaatumo labaa?

Waxaad i shegta o kale, G-15 ma dictatorship ayee ahaayen? Boqor Cabdullahi Dabagooye waadna ooged wixii la marsiyeey iyo ceebti ka dhacday madashi shirka e Taleex.

[siren]

Executive don't engage nacaskan

[udun]

SL proxy aka Khaatumo!