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Re: Supreme Court Sides With Obama
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:21 pm
by waryaa
Shirib wrote:waryaa,
My insurance rates are rising next year by a lot, and they're covering less, and the reason that the insurance company is stating is because of the health care bill.
I'm confused

Shirib, I heard it is across the board. If you see a social program promoted by democrats, it means more burden on the average Joe

Re: Supreme Court Sides With Obama
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:22 pm
by SultanOrder
waryaa wrote:Perfect_Order wrote:Waryaa for those who can afford insurance but opt out will be charged a tax penalty. If you can't afford it the gov will pay for it like medicare.
po, how will the gov determine if I am eligible for free healthcare? Is it based on previous year's income tax return filing? Is there a cutoff income clause or will your premium payments depend on your income - sliding income/payment ratio?
Waryaa much the same way that one can qualify for medicaid, if you fall under a certain income bracket, you qualify for mediciad. I also belive the income bracket qualifying you for it will be widened. And yes your previous filed income tax.
Re: Supreme Court Sides With Obama
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:37 pm
by waryaa
tnx PO.
It looks like insurance companies are now forced not to discriminate or have different brackets for different conditions. If the gov is not putting money into the system then the only way to compensate for that is to increase premiums. That will make a lot of ppl angry. That makes Obama one term president.
Re: Supreme Court Sides With Obama
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:40 pm
by FAH1223
8. Calculation of Individual Mandate Penalty(Tax)
If an applicable individual fails to purchase an insurance plan in one of the many ways allowed, the individual must pay a penalty. Id. § 5000A(b)(1). The annual penalty will be either: (1) a flat dollar amount, or (2) a percentage of the individual's income if higher than the flat rate. Id. § 5000A(c)(1). However, the percentage-of-income figure is capped at the national average premium amount for bronze-level plans in the Exchanges.[fn53] Id.
The flat dollar penalty amount, which sets the floor, is equal to $95 in 2014, $325 in 2015, and $695 in 2016. Id. § 5000A(c)(2)(A), (c)(3)(A)-(C). Beyond 2016, it remains $695, except for inflation adjustments.[fn54] Id. § 5000A(c)(3)(D).
The percentage-of-income number that will apply, if higher than the flat dollar amount, is a set percentage of the taxpayer's income that is in excess of the tax-filing threshold (defined in 26 U.S.C. § 6012(a)(1)).[fn55] Id. § 5000A(c)(2). In any [*1260] event, the total penalty for the taxable year cannot exceed the national average premium of a bronze-level qualified health plan. Id. § 5000A(c)(1).
Re: Supreme Court Sides With Obama
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:42 pm
by Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE
FAH1223 wrote:Free preventative care, able to stay on hooyo/aabo's insurance till age 26, no pre-existing condition discrimination, among other benefits...

Re: Supreme Court Sides With Obama
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:46 pm
by waryaa
fah, can u translate this to plain English? tnx
The flat dollar penalty amount, which sets the floor, is equal to $95 in 2014, $325 in 2015, and $695 in 2016. Id. § 5000A(c)(2)(A), (c)(3)(A)-(C). Beyond 2016, it remains $695, except for inflation adjustments.[fn54] Id. § 5000A(c)(3)(D).
$95 per what? of what?
Re: Supreme Court Sides With Obama
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:52 pm
by FAH1223
waryaa,
No idea

Re: Supreme Court Sides With Obama
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:59 pm
by waryaa
lol - how d u guys get these gifs

Re: Supreme Court Sides With Obama
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:07 pm
by SultanOrder
waryaa wrote:Shirib wrote:waryaa,
My insurance rates are rising next year by a lot, and they're covering less, and the reason that the insurance company is stating is because of the health care bill.
I'm confused

Shirib, I heard it is across the board. If you see a social program promoted by democrats, it means more burden on the average Joe

This is for the time being. Most people don't know how complex this bill is. States are going to start making insurance exchanges where there will be multiple insurance options competing against each other for you to buy their coverage. I think companies will also re-asses their current plans for most cost effective plans for their employees. What is going on now will be changed drastically in the coming years. The immediate effects with out the bill even taking effect is nothing to go buy.
waryaa wrote:fah, can u translate this to plain English? tnx
The flat dollar penalty amount, which sets the floor, is equal to $95 in 2014, $325 in 2015, and $695 in 2016. Id. § 5000A(c)(2)(A), (c)(3)(A)-(C). Beyond 2016, it remains $695, except for inflation adjustments.[fn54] Id. § 5000A(c)(3)(D).
$95 per what? of what?
Per year since this will be charged when you file your taxes. This is also the base penalty if you can afford insurance but choose not to.
Re: Supreme Court Sides With Obama
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:19 pm
by FAH1223
waryaa wrote:lol - how d u guys get these gifs

waryaa, can you add these smilies to here?
http://www.the-coli.com/misc.php?do=get ... Editor_001
Re: Supreme Court Sides With Obama
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:42 pm
by grandpakhalif
LMAO @ Americans, Free Healthcare has been a norm here.
Re: Supreme Court Sides With Obama
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:48 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Warya,
Its a $95 per year. A drop in the bucket.
Re: Supreme Court Sides With Obama
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:25 pm
by FAH1223
Re: Supreme Court Sides With Obama
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:43 pm
by NewHargeisaGirl
^^ Then Was Then – Now Is Now... Romney is against the bill and is willing to replead and replace it ! Let's jst wait and see what the American people have to say in November