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Okay if Farmajoo is so good and inocent then why did he not trying to stop the looting ? he was the PM and responsible for people in his government, 5 million was stolen while he was PM, but could he be ignorant about it.......
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Yes, English is hard for you.
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At last we will stop hearing farmajoo for couple of time 8-) :up:

PS : who will give his campaign money back :lol: :lol: :lol:
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What do you expect? If I was in there position I would be doing the exact same thing, collecting money and securing my financial future by looting a beleagured and weak government. Conflict is profit!
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Best news in the last 21 years! :som:
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There is an agenda here, and I don't think anything good will come out of this. The timing of this report is very suspecious ,
why now? Some sort of a plan is in the works and we Somalis won't know about it until its too late. Oohinta Orgiga ka weyn.

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Farmajo is no different from the rest, look at Sheikh Sharif, indirect connection throught a third party (relative), if there is ever a thorough investigation, no doubt all of them will be guilt as charged.
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hahaha yeah you are rigth when I read that Sharif had connection to corruption I am able to read the english language, but when I read that 5 million dollar was stolen under the farmajoo government and is asking about how he could be ignorant I am un-able to read english hahaha
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The`Republic wrote:1:Farmaajo wasn't actually corrupt, but there was inconsistency in reporting by his team AS REPORTED BY ABDIWALI.

Notice Shareef Hassan owns shares in Somali passport making (that was given to Al Shabaab--I can see a charge coming if they perused this terrorist financing), money printing and laundering, loots aids, and misappropriates and embezzled funds since he was Finance Minister under Shermakee.

Sheikh Sharif embezzled money, used his clansmen and other parties to take advantage of international contracts, received bribes for TFG service, and channeled money through his office.

2: Faroole is a pirate kingpin and broke UN Security Council arms embargo, and received bribes for international contracts.

3: Abdiwali was bribed for tax exemption, took cuts from foreign aid, and used his office to privately disburse donated aid including which his office took off the record.

4: Farmaajo: nothing on him, nothing. Abdiwali claims Farmaajo mismanaged 3.5 million from 10 million given by UAE. But Farmaajo could not understand why Abdiwali made these claims and nor was the Central Bank able to confirm Abdiwali allegations.
since we are going about this the somali route were everyone claims everyone except his clansmen....here is my retort.

1: inconsistencies most often than not = corruption

2: even in the report there is nothing that says faroole embezzled money or mismanaged fund, it only says that he used foreign mercenary group and even then the report say that these mercenary group acted appropriately and that there was nothing wrong with what they did in Puntland rather, the fact they they were in puntland itself. as for arms every region tries to smuggle in arm somaliland get arms from Djibouti alshabaab from Eritrea, if PL didn't take steps they would be a sitting duck, I don't blame him for that since he is fighting pirates, terrorist and such.

3: there is nothing in the report that says abdiweli took bribes, it only states that 15 million was reported by the finance office while the bank claimed that only ten million was there (this was under faarmajos administration) abdiweli stated that the money was mismanaged and that the bank only received 10 million of which 3.5 million were mismanaged by the PM office (at that time faarmaajo) , the report states that he wanted tax exception for companies that provided services for the TGF it didn't say anything about these companies being linked to him.

4: farmaajo was the Pm when this report was conducted and many of the inconsistencies, and mismanagement claims come from his office and that of the two Sharifs, faarmajo , I will read the whole report tonight and create a thread talking about it later on.
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Mody

we dont want to listen to your logical arguments Farmajoo is inocent because he is Marehan.
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Meseret wrote:Mody

we dont want to listen to your logical arguments Farmajoo is inocent because he is Marehan.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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:wtf: ?? please someone who can read enter this topic and reply ASAP !

Former Prime Minister Mohamed Abdullahi farmajo

Prime Minister Abdiweli alleges that the former Prime Minister Abdullahi farmajo mismanaged $3.5 Million of the $10,000,000 received from the UAE “The Monitoring Group has confirmed that the UAE donated US$10,000,000 to the Farmaajo administration and US$5,000,000 to the Abdiweli administration. Lastly, TFG PM Abdiweli Ali informed the SEMG that the US$15 million from the UAE had been wrongly reported. He noted that in 2011 the Farmaajo Administration had received US$10,000,000 from the UAE, but only deposited US$6,500,000 to the Central Bank, and that his administration had received US$5,000,000, which was entirely deposited into the Central Bank account. The SEMG could not reach the Central Bank to confirm these claims and the Prime Minister could not understand why his Ministry of Finance had reported a higher amount than that registered by the Central Bank of Somalia”.The Monitoring group did not interview the former prime Minister about this allegation

Abdiwali is falsely accusing his predecessor of corruption, there is a difference between Abdiwali's baseless allegations and the monitoring groups audit. Abdiwalli could not even produce any evidence to back his claims and Farmaajo has not been interviewed by the monitoring group regarding this false allegation by Abdiwalli. As for Farmaajo, nothing has been said about him by the monitoring group, nothing at all.

Voltage you do not need to feel sorry for Farmaajo, he is not even the subject of this report, you have openly stated you are anti-Farmaajo on this forum before and that is why you are making Farmaajo the subject of this topic, Duh, get a grip, Farmaajo will enter the election and you need to control your hormones for a couple of months until he becomes President and then you can go kill yourself.

this report has nothing to do with Farmaajo, but of course stupid Somali news site owned by Hutus are making it seem as Farmaajo is actually involved in corruption like the others who we already know are very corrupt.
FBISOMALIA wrote:At last we will stop hearing farmajoo for couple of time 8-) :up:

PS : who will give his campaign money back
learn how to read and comprehend the english language you son of whore, I am not even defending Farmaajo here, it is freaking there on the report Abdiwalli is falsely accusing Farmaajo, the monitoring group are not, they are after Sharif Hassan, Sharif, and Abdiwalli.
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I've noticed that many people here have difficulty understanding the concept of substantiation....in addition to reading comprehension issues.

Sakiin took documented kickbacks, owns shares in a company that apparently sells passports to terrorists, and counterfeits money in Sudan. Abdiweli apparently sends letters to custom authorities requesting tax exemptions for companies, and the SEMG has documents that show Abdiweli requesting donated money for his office in addition to the SEMG claiming that 30% of funds were stolen by the top 3. Shariif's office, in addition to the two aforementioned leaders, has spent as much money as they did on the army and all the other ministries combined. Faroole is apparently a facilitator of companies that are serial violators of the arms embargo.

Yet, the entire Farmaajo section is based on unverified claims made by direct political rivals that the SEMG itself admits are unsubstantiated. I don't know why the monitoring group chose to publish Abdiweli's claims and in turn, legitimize them in the eyes of those who'll deliberately misinterpret their findings despite the SEMG's admission that the claims could not be substantiated. I think they owe him an apology.
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Based wrote:I've noticed that many people here have difficulty understanding the concept of substantiation....in addition to reading comprehension issues.

Sakiin took documented kickbacks, owns shares in a company that apparently sells passports to terrorists, and counterfeits money in Sudan. Abdiweli apparently sends letters to custom authorities requesting tax exemptions for companies, and the SEMG has documents that show Abdiweli requesting donated money for his office in addition to the SEMG claiming that 30% of funds were stolen by the top 3. Shariif's office, in addition to the two aforementioned leaders, has spent as much money as they did on the army and all the other ministries combined. Faroole is apparently a facilitator of companies that are serial violators of the arms embargo.

Yet, the entire Farmaajo section is based on unverified claims made by direct political rivals that the SEMG itself admits are unsubstantiated. I don't know why the monitoring group chose to publish Abdiweli's claims and in turn, legitimize them in the eyes of those who'll deliberately misinterpret their findings despite the SEMG's admission that the claims could not be substantiated. I think they owe him an apology.
1: every minister request tax exemption there is nothing inherently illegal about that, if the companies where proven to be his cronies that would be a different story, but that isnt the case.

2: there is no documented evidence showing abdiweli asking for aid money, but even for the sake of argument that was the case, there is nothing wrong with that in itself as well, if the funds were not mismanaged or used for personal reason, and there is no evidence suggesting that.

3: you have to remember that most of the evidence of the report were taken when faarmajo was Pm, so the top 3 offices would be that of faarmaajo sheik sharif and sakiin. :ugeek:
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Are you telling us that Farmajoo as PM did not notice 5 million out of 10 million was missing?

Thanks to Farmajoo UAE will never again give money to somalia
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Image @ nyggas already turning into a qabiil war, calm down lads and lets see what the verdict will be, when they are giving chance to refute the allegations put forward.






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^^150 Million dollars? Sakiin just might be the richest Somali in the world, even though all his earnings are stolen funds.

Honestly though, corruption is world wide, even America corruption is not uncommon as it happens in every department. However in a country like Somalia, where people are barely recovering from famine and drought, it is absolutely unacceptable and all parties involved should be brought before the courts. That is if these allegations prove to be sound.

Somalis are corrupt by nature because our love for money trumps reason, deen and basic human decency, from welfare offices in the west, to schools to even "Somali community centers", all of them are some how rooted in fund mismanagement. Ilaahay hanoo gargaaro, amiin.
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