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the addition of Beerxaani as a district is not really a territorial expansion since the Talhe have populated that place since early colonial times, however it is indeed a political victory for Talhe and Beesha Sade at large.

Colonel wrote:How useless are we when 2 related tribes fight over a massive land which has enough space for all and then some more? Republic your arguments are weak saxiib, it is impossible for any of us to say "my tribe is the majority in Kismayo" or "the claim to the land is based on the river" c'mon now...

1 tribe will have the presidency and the other will be given mayorship of Kismayo, how difficult is that?

bro the fighting started in the 80s, most of the problems we have today stem from the 80s, ever since the huge number of Ogaden refugees were brought into the Jubbas by Siyaad Barre(aun) in the 77-78 war with Ethiopia there as been growing concerns amongst Talhe which in the end ignited a struggle for liberation of Talhe land and removal of refugees. this is the root of all our problems, not Kismaayo, because Kismaayo realistically speaking is populated and runned by Marehan today and was yesterday and will be tomorow.

Look, I love Ogaden people, especially Ogaden women, but we cannot have this humongous tribe with big feet being imported from Galbeed right into our backyard without it causing some problems, the rest of Somalia North and North East Ogaden refugees are being extradited by force to Ethiopia, I don't think this is the solution but the issue needs to be tackled first and foremost, I am not prepared to discuss territory here without discussing the refugee problem we have, it really worries me that no Ogaden on this site is talking of repatriation, You rather have other tribes(Isaaq) take your land in Ogaden region and fighting Marehan for our land in Jubboyinka, I just don't understand that.

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Adali when was ogaden ever shipped from galbeed by siyaad barre?
Its highly embarrassing for a person your age to be believing in cyber mythis created right here on somalinet. and if this happened then prove it. I am sure an event that big would have been documented. show us anythng that even speaks on that other than snet? Moreover if we are recent arrivers as you say then how do you explain the ogaden history of the land? all the major battle with the english and the oromo happened between us and them. While you are at it explain the battles between the harti and ogaden. Also explain the battles between abdalle vs mohamed zubeer? And also explain the ugly wars between abudwak and abdalle, and abudwak vs mohamed zubeer? This is something you cant deny because its written down. I suggest you change your arguments a bit and argue from different angles but never try to say siyad barre brought us here. Tell the truth for once that the land has absame written all over it. Whats interesting is how early writings and early historians always talk about the resistance and the stubborn ogadens but you never find much about marehan. Were you guys small in numbers or were you simply insignificant in comparison with the mighty ogaden? Whatever the answer there is much more ogaden activity in the jubbas in the 1800s and early 1900s than marehan.

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Absame have not been "reer Kismaayo" before the war or after the war. Also, you should understand Beesha Sade is not interested in the 2 districts and half that Absame populate majority wise in Somalia: namely Badhadhe, Afmadoow, and parts of Saakow in Middle Jubba.

Beesha Sade is interested in linking Kismaayo district which we are a force to Gedo region. That's our motivation. We have not cared about Afmadoow and do not care about it now. Afmadoow doesn't influence anywhere. It doesn't influence Kismaayo nor does it influence Jilib nor does it influence Garbahaaray, but Kismaayo district influences all of those places in the Jubba Valley. That's where we are coming from.

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Some people just love to argue.

Murax wrote:Some people just love to argue.

Mad because i questioned the nonsensical crap you posted? voltage so is this your prove that kismaayo is largely marehan inhabited? I am sorry but a line from a source thats highly irrelevant is just not convincing enough. I need real data and if you cant provide that i urge you to stop humilating yourself. let me ask you a question when did ogaden first settle in the jubbas? Now is a good time to show us your knowledge of somali history.

I am glad the Talxe people removed these illegal aliens, may they continue their rightful cause.

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Murax wrote:Some people just love to argue.

Mad because i questioned the nonsensical crap you posted? voltage so is this your prove that kismaayo is largely marehan inhabited? I am sorry but a line from a source thats highly irrelevant is just not convincing enough. I need real data and if you cant provide that i urge you to stop humilating yourself. let me ask you a question when did ogaden first settle in the jubbas? Now is a good time to show us your knowledge of somali history.

The only thing thats relavant is what comes out of Your mouth.

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