Nikah misyar booming!

[Colonel]

NIKAH MISYAR= Nikah MUTCA'H

I doubt you have more knowledge than Al Imam Al Hutuking

[AbdiWahab252]

GK,

Caribana I miss that festival. Great times


As for the Nikah misyar and mutah, these are great institutions Nothing is better than a zina free relationship And after your short term mission in that town is over you have no obligations.



Colonel,

The Great Imam Hutuking01 is arranging a study tour to Karballah, Najjaf, and Qom. You should join us

[Hyperactive]

NIKAH MISYAR= Nikah MUTCA'H

is not the same. misyar is; to marry, zawaj shar'i. the only different is, the woman gave up her rights financially , sexually (part time). man has no responsibility for her to claim other than if there will be kids.

mut'ah; has timing, like you say: i will be married to you for 6 months, a year, a day etc. the guy will be responsible for that period they agreed upon.

[Leftist]

Shaykh Hyper,

Would the culumaa who 'halal-ized' nikah misyar allow their daughters and sisters to be misyar'ed up?

Of course not. So if they wouldn't allow it for their daughters, why is it ok for other women to be exploited?

Did Nabi Muxamed practice misyar?

Did Abu Bakr wa Cumar wa Cuthmaan wa Cali?

No? Case closed then, bro. I kinda agree with Ditoore on this one. Misyar is simply Mut'ah that is cleaned up and given legal cover.

[FAH1223]

loads of dispora somalis are in Xamar trying to get into the next government and many of the getting married there.

they're stupid wallahi, why marry some woman who only wants you for a chance to come here? Middle aged Somali niggas are dumb getting married a 2nd or 3rd time and then having to be financially responsible for another family again all the way from the beginning

[salool]

What kinda of woman go along with this

[Barwaaqoiyobashbash]

The integrals of a marriage agreement اﻟﻨﻜﺎح ﻋﻘﺪ أرﻛﺎن
1. The spoken form
2. The two contracting parties (The bride and the groom)
3. The witnesses
4. The bride’s guardian “Wali”
Hookum – side of structure that holds the roof on it
Hanafi – Existence of matter is dependent on its presence and has to be part of its
essence.
What would be the integrals?
Just the spoken form
Junabili – Existence of matter is dependent on its presence and not has to be part of
its essence
What would be the integrals?
The spoken form, the two contracting parties, and the Wali
First: The Spoken Form "اﻟﺼﯿﻐﺔ ّ "
1. Definition
The formal spoken offer by one party (Al Ijaab)اﻹﯾﺠﺎب
The acceptance by the other party(Al Kubool) اﻟﻘﺒﻮل2. Rulings of the spoken words
Accepted words on which there is agreement
Zawaj
 in Surah al Ahzaab Ayath 27
 immediate possession of relationship
Nikah
 Surah Al Nisaa Ayath 22
 To be continuous through lifetime
 Rejected words on which there is agreement
Any word that does not imply the immediate possession or life long
agreement
Ex. of words
1. Ibaha (permissibility)
2. lending
3. enjoyment
4. Wassiyah (will)
5. Rahan (mortgage)
6. Trust
 Words on which there is disagreement
Al Bayer – Selling
Al Qeeba - Gift
As Saadaqa – Charity
Al Adiyah – Present
 Using writing or sign language as an alternative
Not acceptable if both parties were present and able to speak
Acceptable if person cannot speak, if it was clearly understood and
expressed with intention of marriage
Any contract should have Al Ijaab and Al Khabool
Muatadh – without interaction with another person, not allowed in
marriage
3. Conditions of the spoken form
The language
There is an opinion that it has to be in Arabic because the words used
(Zawaj and Nikah) has to be used in marriage contract
If one person does not understand then you can use language that is
understandable
In English the word used should be in past tense. Ex. I have already
given you my daughter in marriage (Zawajtuka Binti) and the guy
would say I have accepted (Khabilta) The intention has to be clear – Ex. If the guy says “I will”, some
scholars say that it’s ok and some say that it’s just a promise
Both statements Al Ijaab and Al Khabool should be done in the same
session
It should not be interrupted outside the marriage contract. It should
be done immediately
No specific ruling on silence interruption – depends on tradition of
community/culture
The exact correspondence of the Al Ijaab or Al Khabool should matach
The one who gives the proposal have to be on the offer until you receive
the answer. You cannot revoke the proposal. Ex. If you are interrupted
and the person come back to answer the question he has to ask for it
again
The spoken form should imply immediate after the fulfillment of contract.
Should not use the word Inshallah unless you refer to Inshallah for
Barakah
4. Stipulating a grace period of choice in the contract
An optional close after you make contract Ex. See if it works for 3 days – it
is not allowed
Forms of Marriage contracts which violate this rule
The temporary marriage (Zawatul Mutaa) "اﻟﻤﺘﻌﺔ زواج"
It was acceptable in the early times. Abdulalh Ibn Abbas felt it was
permissible he was complaining that people twisted his words and he
said it was wrong and was allowed only as a necessity just when we
know like allowing eating pork in dying necessities
It is practiced now only by Shia
This is forbidden because it does not have implication of life long
relationships
Its another form of Zina
Marriage with an intention of divorce
If he mentions that he will get married to her only for two months
It is harram for him for him to have an intention of divorcing her.
But if the marriage takes place and no one knows except for him, it is still
haraam for him, but marriage is till vaild
‘The borrowed goat’
Marrying someone to make her halal for an ex husband
You have to have intercourse for the second marriage to be halal
It is completely forbidden The marriage is null if the person knows the intention
Marriage of convenience
If fulfills all legal requirements it is acceptable; Unless a time period was
stated that he will divorce.

[Barwaaqoiyobashbash]

^^ Was from an Al-Maghrib class that I took,called Fiqh of Love.
Check out these 2 links,
http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/82390
http://muslimvillage.com/forums/topic/5 ... -in-islam/

[Leftist]

B-bash,

Nothin doin. Again, there is no evidence from the Kitaab or the Sunnah regarding the validity of misyar. It's just another vehicle for men to get their rocks off at the expense and dignity of muslimaat. No different than Mut'ah whatsoever. The escape clause used to justify misyar(ie, there is no time factor) is merely a technicality.

"Hey you, I know your poverty-stricken and have no prospects for guur, so I'm going to rent your you-know-what for a pittance(mahar) and then in return, you give up your right to a house and living expenses. I'll swing by every Tuesday and Thursday between 6pm-9pm, so be prepared for some serious jacayl-making"

What's next, taking a mistress is halal as long as you inform her wali?

[TheblueNwhite]

These guys are just babbling fools, get married to 1 first, support her financially then talk about getting number 2.

A security guard talking about misyar when he never even got laid or had misweyn is a funny joke.

[SummerRain]

Looooooooool@ woman gives up her rights financially. What kind of family agrees to this contract for their women, better yet what kind of woman agrees to this bull?

[Enlightened~Sista]

B-bash,

Nothin doin. Again, there is no evidence from the Kitaab or the Sunnah regarding the validity of misyar. It's just another vehicle for men to get their rocks off at the expense and dignity of muslimaat. No different than Mut'ah whatsoever. The escape clause used to justify misyar(ie, there is no time factor) is merely a technicality.

"Hey you, I know your poverty-stricken and have no prospects for guur, so I'm going to rent your you-know-what for a pittance(mahar) and then in return, you give up your right to a house and living expenses. I'll swing by every Tuesday and Thursday between 6pm-9pm, so be prepared for some serious jacayl-making"

What's next, taking a mistress is halal as long as you inform her wali?

That is the exact definition of Misyar.

Imagine doing the deed while your parents are trying to sleep next door?

[salafi_student]

I don't what misyar means.

But as its been explained is completely wrong. Because it disproves the rights of the wife over her husband and vice-versa. Islam is Just and perfect for mankind.


These kind of thread, definitely not suitable during fasting; in My opinion.


Cool

[Hyperactive]

NIKAH MISYAR= Nikah MUTCA'H

is not the same. misyar is; to marry, zawaj shar'i. the only different is, the woman gave up her rights financially , sexually (part time). man has no responsibility for her to claim other than if there will be kids.

mut'ah; has timing, like you say: i will be married to you for 6 months, a year, a day etc. the guy will be responsible for that period they agreed upon.

i dont know if they would allow their daughters. you should ask them. it's not what you would do or not. it's what is "mujaaz or not" many halal things i wouldnt do it. if woman gave up her rights by the way mostlly common in khaliij specially in saudi arabia between middle aged women. cause they are rich and they are too old to get man her age. cause man her age who can provide wants to marry 15-18 years old second or 3rs wife. so those women in the age frame are lonely and they have needs. will they do zina? if tehre is younger guy who has a family but unable to get second wife , what is the problem?

as disgusting that sounds to me and degrating for women but those women are rich and wants sex in halal way. in worse case i would consider , the leaser evil , al 7aajah. Allah will judge what we disagree hereafter. wallahu a3lam.

[Murax]

Imagine doing nikah Misyar or mutah with hot latina christian girl(marrying them is allowed) then after a rough week divorcing her