On Hyenas and the Pedantic Dogma of Hyper-literalism

[Sagaashan]

So you are against making claims and justifying them with the only basis of justification which hadith to what the companions did or did not do. Or are you against the possibility that some sahaba did drink the urine of the Rasul scw? Or are you against the fact that people might disagree with you on what is the best course of action is?

Okay this is getting too much to take. First Shabab introducing hyena meat to Somali people's palate and now this? ^

[Alphanumeric]

I think there are health benefits in urine (i.e. camel, horse). Human urine? I'm not so sure.

I've seen videos of dudes eating human feces to gain benefit. Who he was, what he believed I can't say. But people are nuts enough to do anything, so nothing should be surprising.

[SultanOrder]

I think there are health benefits in urine (i.e. camel, horse). Human urine? I'm not so sure.

I've seen videos of dudes eating human feces to gain benefit. Who he was, what he believed I can't say. But people are nuts enough to do anything, so nothing should be surprising.

It's not halal to drink urine from humans. This with a lot of things are considered special cases for just the prophet scw.

[Shirib]

E-sistah, it happened, and according to the hadiths, these sahaba got health benefits. Now it wasn't something widespread or encouraged by the prophet scw.

are u serious? I have a real hard time believing this

[jalaaludin5]

This offensive post should be deleted.

[Alchemist]

This offensive post should be deleted.

welcome back Mujahid

[SultanOrder]

E-sistah, it happened, and according to the hadiths, these sahaba got health benefits. Now it wasn't something widespread or encouraged by the prophet scw.

are u serious? I have a real hard time believing this

Why, because you have not heard of this?

[FarahWithFlare]

Perfect-Order,

There is no special case for this dude. Iska ilaali saxib to justify anything that has no basis in Islam. An Egyptian Mufti started an uproar when he wrote that the companions of the prophet would bless themselves with the prophet's urine. Something that never happened and has no religious significance. We all know how purification is required for prayer and that you have to wash your clothes when Urine touches it. This so called Mufti is a Sufi, which says much about their obsession with important religious beings. They always look for a reason to worship a human being.


I suggest to Waryaa and other Forum managers to shut down this thread.


Anyone interested in the Article about this Uproar and debate in Egypt can read below



http://sweetness-light.com/archive/upro ... hets-urine

[SultanOrder]

This with a lot of things are considered special cases for just the prophet scw.

Perfect-Order,

There is no special case for this dude.

[FarahWithFlare]

You can't justify what doesn't exist by saying it is a special case. There is no special case in this. Iska ilaali dude. The companions were more dignified and had deeper faith than to seek to worship the prophet to the extent they would drink his Urine for blessing. This is very offensive and insulting.


Suufida diin ma haystaan fiican. The source of all superstition comes from them. And this fatwa by this dude in Egypt, which caused an uproar, is a case in point. Read the Article.

[grandpakhalif]

Assalamu alaikum,

I think it is imperative for me to respond to this post, which is full of errors and misguidance which may send members that frequent this site astray.

1. Your point about Hyena meat, yes it is halaal according to major sheikhs such as Ibn Baaz (whom you so mocked)

Wednesday, 07 November 2007 13:52
Question:
What is the ruling on eating the meat of horses and the meat of hyenas?
Answer:
The meat of horses is permissible, the Prophet, peace and prayer are upon him, allowed this; and also the meat of hyena has been made permissible by a text from the Prophet peace and prayer are upon him. Horse and hyena meat are permissible for us as opposed to the meat of wolves, lion, tigers, and dogs, which is haram.
And horse meat is permissible by a text from the Prophet peace and prayer are upon as comes by way of Jabir ibn Abdullah Al Ansaaree may Allah be pleased with him, he said, ‘The Prophet forbade the people from eating their donkeys and allowed them to eat the meat of horses.’
And Asma the daughter of Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with them said, ‘We slaughtered, during the time of the Prophet peace and prayer are upon him, a horse, so we ate it while we were in Medina. It authenticity has been agreed upon; therefore horse and hyena are permissible for us according to what is most correct.
As for the people’s donkey and the mules then they are haram, the donkeys and mule are haram also the beast of prey such as wolves, tigers, lions, dogs and cats, all of them are haram to eat.
Fatwa by Sheikh Bin Baz

Allah and his messenger has made it permissible according to this hadith so if you don't like it than don't try to make other people who want to eat it.

2. Obeying the rulers is an essential part of Islam, I can bring you countless hadiths where the Prophets urged to obey the rulers even if he is oppressive, chaos and lawlessness are more evil.

One of the ahaadeeth in which the Prophet (salallaahu 'alaihiwasallam) commanded us to obey them [the rulers] consists of the words: '...even if he beats your back and takes your money.' It is also authentically reported on him (salallaahu 'alaihiwasallam) that he said: 'Give them what they are entitled to (of rights), and ask Allaah for what you are entitled to (of rights).'"

This is a sahih hadith, rejecting it is an act of disbelief.

3.The point about men breastfeeding women is acceptable in certain situations where this unrelated female is going to be in your house for a prolonged period of time. Of course it would be frustrating and quite tedious for the woman to have xijab all the time. Now he is her relative and she no longer has to. I see this as a simple way and quite liberating and inspires us to look at the beauty of Islam in a more optimistic light. It was quite practical then and it still is now!

4. About your point on sexual slavery and your silly story about sex orgies. Slavery is still halal today and shall continue to exist until the last day, slavery was actually a methodology used to protect women and children captured as victims of war. A Kaafir nation would simply pillage that village and rape then murder the children. Islam is mericful and allows those women to be under the trusteeship of her captor and provides her a safe and secure home. Allah has clearly allowed in the Qur'an for men to enter upon these women and its 100% legal.

5. I disagree with your notion that since the West is more technologically advanced whilst the muslim world is backward. The same doctrine being used today was employed when muslims produced the likes Ibn Sina and Ibn Carabi, pioneers in medicine and exploration. Muslims are backward today because we don't control the world's major loaning institutions like the IMF and The World Bank which impose paper currency and thus replacing the muslim default; dinar and dirham. This paper money has no eccentric value and is simply printed, distributed and prices set by US and its Jewish agents. Muslims are extremely poor because the governments are too indebted by structural loans to do anything. Of course without money and a vast majority of our population in poverty science isn't exactly our priority.

[FarahWithFlare]

grandpa, Adiga madaxaa in lagaaga jiro yaan maleeyay. At#4, waabad isku xaartay kid. Kulahaa Slavery waa xalaal and gives women protection. Many of you in this forum have put your faith at risk by commenting without reservations on what Allah Had prohibited and what he has made legal without knowledge.


Meesha ka aamusa.

[TeAmo]

Perfect Order

They're against it but do they physically fight against them? No they just point out what their doing is wrong and make dua against them. Late scholars like Ibn taymiyah, Ibn qayim, Ibn baaz and even salih fawzan who is alive today say you can't fight against your leader.

[Shirib]

E-sistah, it happened, and according to the hadiths, these sahaba got health benefits. Now it wasn't something widespread or encouraged by the prophet scw.

are u serious? I have a real hard time believing this

Why, because you have not heard of this?

drinking qaadi doesn't sound like its something healthy or logical. And no i've never heard of it before. What is the source of this claim?

[sadeboi]

subxanullah again another brilliant post.

but i am forced to ask again, why this confusing western title.
Leftist?

what do you mean by leftist?

I think this young man/woman is by far one of the best members and articulate. I am also confused by his leftist reference. Leftist, I think you've made wonderful points, the presentation could use some
help, some might read your comments in a very personal manner removed of reason.