what are the differences between meher, yarad and sooryo?

[sahal80]

sahal, you have to pay the father and mother money first of all, to make them raalio and happy with you. And then you have to be generous to your guests who came to your mehr, who ate the food you gave them, and brought more blessings to your marriage, so you have to hand out money to as much people as you can. 5-6 years ago, guys would hand out $500-600 in 20's to as much guys as possible, now a days it is half that and in 10's.

Ok, thank you so much I get it now. besides her parents, all whoever was invited in the munasabat al nikaax that is sooryo.very clear now.

[sahal80]

You cant but a value on a person sooryo waa lacagta you pay to her family and the amount depends on how close the girl is, each qabiil pays the next qabiil X amount.

no. That is not what she worths and it doesn't make the guy to own her, its just an abstract concept.

[COOL-MAN]

lol what is difference between mehr and mahr?

are you thick? Read them again what we have stated so far.

not as thick as you obviously are lol

you say and i quote

meher means nikkah/kitaab
yarad sooryo means al mahr


i ask

what is the difference betwn meher and al mahr?

I understood both to mean the same.

Mehr=dowry
al mahr= the same shit.

hence my question whats difference?

Also i understand niikah but wtf is kitaab?

[kambuli]

Meher is clear..Like waxaa lagu meheriyey gabadha $2000.00 dollars....It is usually what she asks for and what the groom accepts...If he divorces her it is a must he gives her meher. Even it is required to give the girl her meher while she is married..

Yarad I beleive is what is given to the family of the girl..Like 50 camels etc

Sooryo is what those who came for the hand of the girl were given while they are with the girl's famiy..In other words sooryo waa lacagtan yaree ee ay kusoo duubaan cumaamadda ee gabadha marka la meheriyo ay qaybsadaan qoladii gabadha bixisey....

Bal idinku markaa muxuu noqonayaa Gabaatigii

[COOL-MAN]

gabaati=Todobo bax gift?

[sahal80]

lol what is difference between mehr and mahr?

are you thick? Read them again what we have stated so far.

not as thick as you obviously are lol

you say and i quote

meher means nikkah/kitaab
yarad sooryo means al mahr


i ask

what is the difference betwn meher and al mahr?

I understood both to mean the same.

Mehr=dowry
al mahr= the same shit.

hence my question whats difference?

Also i understand niikah but wtf is kitaab?

You missed my second post then.
the somali word meher is a misused word like the tartiib word wich means slowly while in arabic it means to put in order.
Mahr in arabic means her value the whatsoever he should pay for her, it stands for yarad in here.
Meher stands for the nikaax for example If you paid her yarad without nikaax it is not halal but you can pay the yarad(almahr) later if she agrees. Nikaax and kitaab are the same terms and the same thing.
glad to share it with you.

[sahal80]

Meher is clear..Like waxaa lagu meheriyey gabadha $2000.00 dollars....It is usually what she asks for and what the groom accepts...If he divorces her it is a must he gives her meher. Even it is required to give the girl her meher while she is married..

Yarad I beleive is what is given to the family of the girl..Like 50 camels etc

Sooryo is what those who came for the hand of the girl were given while they are with the girl's famiy..In other words sooryo waa lacagtan yaree ee ay kusoo duubaan cumaamadda ee gabadha marka la meheriyo ay qaybsadaan qoladii gabadha bixisey....

Bal idinku markaa muxuu noqonayaa Gabaatigii

omg. Your confusing us. There is no one term that stands for nikaax in your post. this is how its.
Meher. Means nikaax
Yarad means mahr
Sooryo a money for her parents and for those who have attended the nikaax event.
FULL STOP.

[COOL-MAN]

not as thick as you obviously are lol

you say and i quote

meher means nikkah/kitaab
yarad sooryo means al mahr


i ask

what is the difference betwn meher and al mahr?

I understood both to mean the same.

Mehr=dowry
al mahr= the same shit.

hence my question whats difference?

Also i understand niikah but wtf is kitaab?

You missed my second post then.
the somali word meher is a misused word like the tartiib word wich means slowly while in arabic it means to put in order.
Mahr in arabic means her value the whatsoever he should pay for her, it stands for yarad in here.
Meher stands for the nikaax for example If you paid her yarad without nikaax it is not halal but you can pay the yarad(almahr) later if she agrees. Nikaax and kitaab are the same terms and the same thing.
glad to share it with you.

well explained. Shukran.
Seems your arabic is bettet than your somali. Its the opposite with me lol

Sahal..
Belive me kambuli is the expert. Better listen and learn from het.

[kambuli]

Cool,

I don't think Gabaati is toddoba bax

Ofcourse meher is ninkaax..The word meher is used in two ways..

1..The nikaax itself..Like sahal gabadh ayuu mehersaday or gabadhii waa la mehersadey.
2. The amount of wealth/asset lagu meheriyey..because it is required...Like imisa ayaa lagu meheriyey gabadhii uu Sahal mehersaday?

I am not confusing you..But if you want to take the easy way go for it

[sahal80]

quote="COOL-MAN"][quote="sahYou missed my second post then.
the somali word meher is a misused word like the tartiib word wich means slowly while in arabic it means to put in order.
Mahr in arabic means her value the whatsoever he should pay for her, it stands for yarad in here.
Meher stands for the nikaax for example If you paid her yarad without nikaax it is not halal but you can pay the yarad(almahr) later if she agrees. Nikaax and kitaab are the same terms and the same thing.
glad to share it with you. [/quote][/quote]


well explained. Shukran.
Seems your arabic is bettet than your somali. Its the opposite with me lol

Sahal..
Belive me kambuli is the expert. Better listen and learn from het.[/quote]
Cafwan. as for kambuli, didn't read much of her posts, she hardly visites. Unless that somalis use the same meher term for both nikaax and mahr(yarad) and then the word yarad will be left out of a nothing.
Thus, her assertion doesn't make sense.

[Alphanumeric]

Mehr is the dowry; what the girl (or guardian) asks for. It's usually money or something of value. I think it actually has to be something with monetary value, as opposed to "an apple", "quran", etc. But that's just me.

The other two words, no clue.

[Thuganomics]

somalis use the same meher term for both nikaax and mahr(yarad) and then the word yarad will be left out of a nothing.
Thus, her assertion doesn't make sense.

Meher marna waa noun (When it's labeled as the payment) marna waa verb (When it becomes the act of performing the ceremony) simple
Yarad:Totally different issue to the Meher (noun) as it's a dowry for the brides family
Sooryo an act of curtsey towards the visiting family by way of a present usually cash

[sahal80]

Cool,

I don't think Gabaati is toddoba bax

Ofcourse meher is ninkaax..The word meher is used in two ways..

1..The nikaax itself..Like sahal gabadh ayuu mehersaday or gabadhii waa la mehersadey.
2. The amount of wealth/asset lagu meheriyey..because it is required...Like imisa ayaa lagu meheriyey gabadhii uu Sahal mehersaday?

I am not confusing you..But if you want to take the easy way go for it

haven't read this post before my last one, I thought about it. I think you have a somali slamist terms so you use both arabic and somali but originally speaking, among the older generations they might only known meher as nikaax and exclusively religious term away from the trade terms. Thanks for sharing.

[sahal80]

somalis use the same meher term for both nikaax and mahr(yarad) and then the word yarad will be left out of a nothing.
Thus, her assertion doesn't make sense.

Meher marna waa noun (When it's labeled as the payment) marna waa verb (When it becomes the act of performing the ceremony) simple
Yarad:Totally different issue to the Meher (noun) as it's a dowry for the brides family
Sooryo an act of curtsey towards the visiting family by way of a present usually cash

Sounds like kambulis assertion was according to the somali native culture then. I didn't get the difference between meher the noun and the yarad. aren't they are the same? What is the difference between the payment and the dowry?

[IRONm@N]

Meher is what you give the bride
Yarad is what you give her parents
Sooriyo is what you give to her tribe/relatives at the wedding.