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Re: Fake Arab revolutions for dummies.

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:08 pm
by Shirib
AbuukarSubeer,

Allahu calam, but I can't bring myself to support Assad. He's massacring his own civilians and believe it isn't because he cares about Syria, it's people or the ummah.

I have a hard time following Sheik Imran, because he truly doesn't know whats going on the ground. He's far removed from it.

Re: Fake Arab revolutions for dummies.

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:10 pm
by ZubeirAwal
Shirib wrote:AbuukarSubeer,

Allahu calam, but I can't bring myself to support Assad. He's massacring his own civilians and believe it isn't because he cares about Syria.
That is part of the deception, Asad is killing civilians without a doubt, but the biased media want to show you images of murdered children to win your hearts and rally against asad, their is no two sided view, these arab springs happened 100 years ago when the ottoman saw revolutions crafted ofcourse by the zionists , these revolutions to the arab countires by the storm, history is repeating itself but this time instead of placing dictators its placing islamists.

And its all going according to plan.

Read this :

Narrated Auf bin Malik: I went to the Prophet during the Ghazwa of Tabuk while he was sitting in a leather tent. He said, “Count six signs that indicate the approach of the Hour: my death, the conquest of Jerusalem, a plague that will afflict you (and kill you in great numbers) as the plague that afflicts sheep, the increase of wealth to such an extent that even if one is given one hundred Dinars, he will not be satisfied; then an affliction which no Arab house will escape, and then a Truce between you and Banu Al­Asfar who will betray you and attack you under eighty flags. Under each flag will be twelve thousand soldiers. (Sahih Bukhari)

Abdullah bin Amr reported that the Messenger of Allah said: “There will come a calamity which will wipe out the Arabs. Their slain will be in hell. The tongue will be more severe in this than the blow of the sword.” (Tirmiidhi, Ibn Majah)

There is evidence that the present ‘Arab Spring’ which commenced more than one year ago, like the one which preceded it one hundred years before, was Judeo­-Christian­European crafted, and is meant to prepare the way for an Arab slaughter which will facilitate the imposition of Israeli political and economic dominion over the Arabs. It is almost certain that Zionists will soon wage biological war against the Arabs (on Dajjal’s behalf) as prophesied by the Prophet, with which to bring about a substantial reduction in the population of the Arab world.

All the information lies in the deen.

Re: Fake Arab revolutions for dummies.

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:14 pm
by Shirib
A good family friend of mine has family in Syria, and from their accounts, Assad isn't leaving a stone unturned. This isn't media reports, this is from people who's words I really trust.

The Arabs, Ottoman revolution in all honesty was crafted by the Ottomans more than anything else. It wasn't the Arabs who started Arab nationalism, they were very quite happy with being Ottomans. It was the Turks who went crazy over Turkish nationalism, and isolated everyone, even committing a genocide on ethnic Armenians. Arab nationalism wasn't a mistake or a conspiracy, it came due to Ottoman policies and as a result of Turkish nationalism.

Re: Fake Arab revolutions for dummies.

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:32 pm
by Negritude
AbuukarSubeer wrote:
HutuKing01 wrote:Doqonka Yar,
If Assad is hero of Arab World how come the Golan Heights are still occupied by Israel?

Go support alawi gaal who is slaughtering ahlu sunnah muslims. Only a sambac would do that.
Just do not play with Allah's words by making takfiir against FSA.
I'd rather debate with people of more intelligence, you are stupid, and a donkey and would never understand the deep importance of the knowledge of the Akhirul Zaman.

Accept that we are in Akhirul Zaman
Accept that the Ummah is about to enter its darkest days
Accept that what you see on tv, is nothing but bullshit.
Accept that there is a time and a place and snet is not it.

Re: Fake Arab revolutions for dummies.

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:53 pm
by Enlightened~Sista
a 16 year old boy telling a 30 year old man he's dumb. Ouch that must hurt Hutudoqon :Heh:

Re: Fake Arab revolutions for dummies.

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:00 pm
by ZubeirAwal
Enlightened~Sista wrote:a 16 year old boy telling a 30 year old man he's dumb. Ouch that must hurt Hutudoqon :Heh:
I'm 17 :leon:

Re: Fake Arab revolutions for dummies.

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:57 pm
by Leftist
Accept that we are in Akhirul Zaman
Nobody, not even Shaykh Imran Hussein(who I respect) can say that with a certainty. People have been trying to predict Aakhirul Zamaan since the beginning of Islam. They would see a comet in the sky or feel an earthquake and BAM, it's Aakhirul Zamaan. Except that wasn't.

Those who insist on placing a date & time for Aakhirul Zamaan are no different from those who insist the world would end in 2012.
Accept that the Ummah is about to enter its darkest days
Politically speaking, the Ummah never existed beyond a few year's after the Prophet's death. Muslims have been slaughtering, raping, pillaging, and plundering each other since Uthman's assassination until today. We're nothing special bro. We're just human.

But instead of taking responsibility for our dark history as Muslims, idealists prefer to live in a fantasy world of conspiracy where every setback is someone else's fault. Mucaawiya vs Ali ? Zionist conspiracy. Ummayads vs Abbasids? Zionist conspiracy. The sects and sub-sects Islam has been divided into? Zionist conspiracy.

Can it get any weaker than having your entire history be explained by "yahooda aa ka dambaysay"?

I don't mean to sound patronizing, but at this pace, you're headed for burn-out. Disillusionment is a cold b-word and many atheists became atheists because the messy realities of Life didn't live up to their idealistic fervor.

Re: Fake Arab revolutions for dummies.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:30 am
by gurey25
Abubaker

i have one thing to say to you, please stop our Zionist conspiracy obsession.
You are attributing to them far more power and intelligence than they have.

you are making the mistake of seeing the ISrealis through arab eyes.
They appear as supermen capable of doing impossible feats because the arabs are just incredibly stupid and incompetent.
compare anyone to arabs and they will shine, compare a modern vibrant people like the jews to arabs who have severe cultural handicaps and they will shine very bright.

the reality is different, the chinese, indians and Europeans do not see them as special.
and their millitary skill is not so great compared to the rest of the world, example .. during fighter exercises with NATO isreali pilots usualy come out as average with pilots from countries like france, and belguim scoring more points.
but compared to arabs with their severe cultural handicaps, even the worst pilot in the isreali airforce that is fit only to fly cargo planes comes out as an ace.
technology plays little in this .


my advice abubaker, stay away from endtimes thinking and focus on the here and now.
focus your thoughts on how to solve our problems today.
saying youm al qiyaama is around the corner makes people wait and take the suffering without doing anything because they await a saviour a mahdi.
this is deviant thinking and is a thought process central to the majority of the deviant sects in all the abrahimic religions.

Re: Fake Arab revolutions for dummies.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:41 am
by ZubeirAwal
Leftist wrote:
Accept that we are in Akhirul Zaman
Nobody, not even Shaykh Imran Hussein(who I respect) can say that with a certainty. People have been trying to predict Aakhirul Zamaan since the beginning of Islam. They would see a comet in the sky or feel an earthquake and BAM, it's Aakhirul Zamaan. Except that wasn't.

Those who insist on placing a date & time for Aakhirul Zamaan are no different from those who insist the world would end in 2012.
Accept that the Ummah is about to enter its darkest days
Politically speaking, the Ummah never existed beyond a few year's after the Prophet's death. Muslims have been slaughtering, raping, pillaging, and plundering each other since Uthman's assassination until today. We're nothing special bro. We're just human.

But instead of taking responsibility for our dark history as Muslims, idealists prefer to live in a fantasy world of conspiracy where every setback is someone else's fault. Mucaawiya vs Ali ? Zionist conspiracy. Ummayads vs Abbasids? Zionist conspiracy. The sects and sub-sects Islam has been divided into? Zionist conspiracy.

Can it get any weaker than having your entire history be explained by "yahooda aa ka dambaysay"?

I don't mean to sound patronizing, but at this pace, you're headed for burn-out. Disillusionment is a cold b-word and many atheists became atheists because the messy realities of Life didn't live up to their idealistic fervor.
Signs of Akhirul Zaman are everywhere, Men being women, Women being men, Riba in every corner of the world, the return of the isreal state, there's no point denying it.

Re: Fake Arab revolutions for dummies.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:39 pm
by Cumar-Labasuul
someone shut this kid up

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Re: Fake Arab revolutions for dummies.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:52 pm
by Samatr
AbuukarSubeer wrote:
HutuKing01 wrote:Doqonka Yar,
If Assad is hero of Arab World how come the Golan Heights are still occupied by Israel?

Go support alawi gaal who is slaughtering ahlu sunnah muslims. Only a sambac would do that.
Just do not play with Allah's words by making takfiir against FSA.
I'd rather debate with people of more intelligence, you are stupid, and a donkey and would never understand the deep importance of the knowledge of the Akhirul Zaman.

Accept that we are in Akhirul Zaman
Accept that the Ummah is about to enter its darkest days
Accept that what you see on tv, is nothing but bullshit.

you not to smoke a spliff and calm the fuck down son.


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Re: Fake Arab revolutions for dummies.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:08 pm
by Negritude
AbuukarSubeer wrote:
Leftist wrote:
Accept that we are in Akhirul Zaman
Nobody, not even Shaykh Imran Hussein(who I respect) can say that with a certainty. People have been trying to predict Aakhirul Zamaan since the beginning of Islam. They would see a comet in the sky or feel an earthquake and BAM, it's Aakhirul Zamaan. Except that wasn't.

Those who insist on placing a date & time for Aakhirul Zamaan are no different from those who insist the world would end in 2012.
Accept that the Ummah is about to enter its darkest days
Politically speaking, the Ummah never existed beyond a few year's after the Prophet's death. Muslims have been slaughtering, raping, pillaging, and plundering each other since Uthman's assassination until today. We're nothing special bro. We're just human.

But instead of taking responsibility for our dark history as Muslims, idealists prefer to live in a fantasy world of conspiracy where every setback is someone else's fault. Mucaawiya vs Ali ? Zionist conspiracy. Ummayads vs Abbasids? Zionist conspiracy. The sects and sub-sects Islam has been divided into? Zionist conspiracy.

Can it get any weaker than having your entire history be explained by "yahooda aa ka dambaysay"?

I don't mean to sound patronizing, but at this pace, you're headed for burn-out. Disillusionment is a cold b-word and many atheists became atheists because the messy realities of Life didn't live up to their idealistic fervor.
Signs of Akhirul Zaman are everywhere, Men being women, Women being men, Riba in every corner of the world, the return of the isreal state, there's no point denying it.
This was happening in pre-Islamic times (word to Hatshepsut).
Samatr wrote: you need to smoke a spliff and calm the fuck down son.


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This is what we should all be doing right now.

Re: Fake Arab revolutions for dummies.

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:56 am
by gurey25
Negritude wrote: This is what we should all be doing right now.
hell yeah !!!

Re: Fake Arab revolutions for dummies.

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:54 am
by grandpakhalif
gurey25 wrote:
Negritude wrote: This is what we should all be doing right now.
hell yeah !!!
:myman: