Tarik Ramadan on the protests and the 'anti-islam film'

[Somaliman50]

I saw the trailer and i noticed the terrible quality of the acting and the camera skills, its like the photographic skills of a 10 year old.

[Gantaal05]

I saw the trailer and i noticed the terrible quality of the acting and the camera skills, its like the photographic skills of a 10 year old.

i went on watching for almost 2 minutes and I stopped cause I swear my IQ was dropping points
Seriously...people got upset about this crap? Please...I would rather play with a yoyo.

[SahanGalbeed]

This ,if it weren't for the people who died in the process woulda remained a non story as far as I am concerned .
Mid carab misiixi ah oo intu yahuudi maraykan ah iska dhigo carabtii u la dhashay ku diraya ummad kale , waa sheeko balaayo . Balaayada loo ma joojiyo , waa laga fogaada

[Cumar-Labasuul]

lool at the suufi shrines post - some people are really stupid.

fool I would be involved in the destruction of a shrine as it is an act of shirk, as for the salafi boogey man being mentioned everywhere

[SahanGalbeed]

It is true , they are a little primitive and violent in their conduct , not meant to hurt your feelings
Unless you're gonna tell me that within the salafis there are subgroups , that have different "modus operandi" which could very well be true , laakin that's what they call themselves
All I see is a bunch of crazy motherf,ckers . They have brought a tribal like mentality in the religion , they are gonna be treated as such

[Cumar-Labasuul]

ok if you have labelled these protestors from egypt to libya to wherever salafi - horta do you know the principles or the manhaj of the salaf? i guess its a no. Fyi protesting goes against all teachings, so it would be impossible for the guys to be as such.

sahan, what would you classify yourself as (apart from a scared brudda who has to act different for fear of his green card being revoked )

[SahanGalbeed]

Anigu haddaan kaaga sheekeeyo life-keyga inaad naxdo ayaa laga yaaba

I am a muslim , period !
I fight people for reasons that can be reasonably solved among human beings through dialogue . I recognise I do not have neither the authority nor the knowledge to fight anybody in the name of God and I will never follow anybody that doesn't make sense to me
What makes sense to me then you may ask ? Good question it is a long story , it all started the day I was born ....

[TeAmo]

These people have been mind raped by Salafi. Salafi is not a sect you fools there is no such thing called I am a Salafi it is Bid'a to call yourself anything but a Muslim. Sallafiyya is just an ideology of following the salaf (pious predecessors) which are; The prophet (saw), Sahaba, Tabi'un and the Atba Tabi'un which every Muslim should be doing therefore every Muslim is a Salafi. And according to the teachings of the Salaf which are the prophet, sahaba, the tabi'un and the atba tabi-un. Protest and demonstrations are a kafir ideology and forbidden in Islam so how is it that these people who you label "Salafi's" are demonstrating and killing when they believe this is haram to begin with? May Allah grant knowledge to those who speak without it ameen. Instead of learning from Sheikh ibn Google please do go to your local rightly guided mosque.

[SahanGalbeed]

Waxa alle iyo waxay yihin garan mayno anagu e , nin iyo naag ummad iska wada cadhaysan oo iska kaa soo jiidhaysa ayuun baynu aragna e .
Protesting is haram ya ?
okay .
It like the daarood here . The majeerten don't like it when I attack a marexaan by calling him daarood . The dhulbahante don't like it when I call out a majeerten , the Ogaden don't really say much these days .

same shit

[Leftist]

Protest and demonstrations are a kafir ideology and forbidden in Islam

Says who? Hebel Fowzaan? What evidence does he have? Or is it the typical "everything is bidca, except when the ruler does it, then it becomes halal"

I also like how you're using "kafir ideaology" as a pejorative. Tell me something: Wasn't it "kafir idealogy" that rescued you from whatever refugee camp you were in, and gave you FREE cunto, shelter, and an education. Yeah, it's called abolition(the freedom to not be a slave), women's suffrage(the freedom to not be under a man's control), and welfare(the freedom to not starve and/or prostitute urself so that you can eat) Do you know that you have none of those rights in the Holy Land of Literalism? That you will starve and be tarxeel'ed? Even if you plead with the officer "Wallahi billahi I love King Fahad soooo much, please don't tarxeel me", the officer will just call you a "cabdah" and send you back.

So maybe a tiny bit of gratitude is in order, little girl?

[Leftist]

Tariq Ramadan

From the Democracy now interview:

o, in fact, we call very often Wahhabi, following the Saudi school of thought and law. And they are literalists in the way where it’s black and white, there’s a very narrow interpretation of the scriptural sources

So this is why, as Muslims and as Muslim scholars and intellectuals, we have to be very clear on what is acceptable and what is this accepted diversity in Islam

[Arabmann]

Tariq Ramadan

He's a well-known "moderate" intellectual. He doesn't command much influence in Muslim countries.

[Leftist]

^^ He's not a moderate, he's a pragmatist, just like his Awoowe, Hassan Al-Banna(raximahullah). He's about practical beneficial results for Muslims worldwide, not pedantic dogma (how many hairs on a man's chin constitute an offical Sunna beard? Is a white abaaya haram or halal? What about a neon green abaaya? )

He may not have that much influence now, but with time, as the bankruptcy of literalism becomes more and more apparent, he will.

[TeAmo]

Protest and demonstrations are a kafir ideology and forbidden in Islam

Says who? Hebel Fowzaan? What evidence does he have? Or is it the typical "everything is bidca, except when the ruler does it, then it becomes halal"

I also like how you're using "kafir ideaology" as a pejorative. Tell me something: Wasn't it "kafir idealogy" that rescued you from whatever refugee camp you were in, and gave you FREE cunto, shelter, and an education. Yeah, it's called abolition(the freedom to not be a slave), women's suffrage(the freedom to not be under a man's control), and welfare(the freedom to not starve and/or prostitute urself so that you can eat) Do you know that you have none of those rights in the Holy Land of Literalism? That you will starve and be tarxeel'ed? Even if you plead with the officer "Wallahi billahi I love King Fahad soooo much, please don't tarxeel me", the officer will just call you a "cabdah" and send you back.

So maybe a tiny bit of gratitude is in order, little girl?

First of all little Somali boy who got gang banged in the civil war, I was never in a refugee camp. Thanks to Allah and my family I was from a wealthy family therefore wasn't even in Somalia when the war happened. so I didn't get rescued by any kufar. Secondly my Father is a working man therefore does not get any welfare money instead pays tax to keep you and your family in your home and technically pays your bills.

The only favour the U.K did for me was letting me into this country to stay and CONTRIBUTE to their society but even if they didn't I would probably be in another country where my parents would be working their ass off to provide for me like they always have. . So don't assume that everbody went through what you went through.


Third of all do not refer to scholars as hebel hebel fowzan you dirty little rat. According to recent day scholers (uthaaymen, albani,bin baz) the idea of protesting and demonstrating is not liked because it revolts againts the rulers and if its not doing that it disturbs the peace, just like it has done in Libya, Egypt etc. It is also unislamic and is not one of the teachings of the prophet (saw).

What is beyond me is how you praise kufars and follow kufar and atheist ideologies but try to tell off a Muslim who follows the advise of the scholars.

[Arabmann]

He may not have that much influence now, but with time, as the bankruptcy of literalism becomes more and more apparent, he will.

What do you mean by "bankruptcy of literalism"? Make yourself clear.