Al-Shabaab fleeing Kismaayo

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Re: Al-Shabaab fleeing Kismaayo

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Arabman wrote:
Colonel wrote:Arabman what's your take on this? How do you think this conflict can be solved?
Al-Shabaab have been preparing for years. They are in this for the long haul. They aren't going to negotiate, just like the Taliban. Anyone who thinks they can be defeated or there's a military solution is completely deluded. The sole superpower along with dozens of coalition partners, military power and budget that dwarfs the one of Somalia-- failed to subdue the Taliban. Afghanistan has been through what Somalia is now starting to undergo. If you want to see where Somalia is headed a few-several years from now, look no further than Afghanistan. Afghanistan itself is headed towards a future where foreign troops leave and the Taliban come back to power. I know some would say the population supports the Taliban, while al-Shabaab are hated-- but that's what Karzai and his supporters used to say, that the population hates the Taliban.
Arent you forgetting the most important reason why Taliban is still a factor in Afghanistan ? Taliban would've been in the dustbin of history if it wasn't for the support of Pakistan who is keeping them alive as a strategic pond. Every time the Taliban are chased they run over the border, rest, re-group and get weapons from the pakistani state and then come back fresh for more fighting. With neighbours like ours, you have to explain how they can survive .

Just this summer a Taliban commander admitted that they can't win the war. The americans will perhaps widraw most of their troops, establish a base and use even more drones in the future. So the Taliban soldiers will have to hide , never being able to fully gain a status as a government that can rule .

Shabaab will not be totaly gone, but even a state like Mexico has thousand who die every year in the drug war. It doesn't mean that the Mexican government will vanish. It means there are challenges.

Soon enough Somalia will be on its feet, and the terror group known as Shabaab will be gone like the nightmare they are.
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Re: Al-Shabaab fleeing Kismaayo

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VeiledGarbasar wrote:They have no grasp of islamic laws and their leaders are virgins hidden in towers.
true, they've no grasp of "islamic law". only people like you and the donkey in your avatar have firm grasped of "islamic law". according to the likes of you "islamic law" is prostituting yourself to filthy fufus and aids-ridden ethiopians under western masters; replacing allah's sovereignty and sharia with the enemy and their greek methodology (democracy); signing treaties recognizing the enemies right to muslim lands he occupies or any land he annexes in the future; and so on. yup, thats "islamic law".
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Re: Al-Shabaab fleeing Kismaayo

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Once Wilaayada Islaamiga exit Kismaayo , chaos and jaahiliyah will return to the city.Cagdheer warlords and ilkayar warlords fighting over the city, Kenyan soldiers raping the muslimas, young people with signs of sunnah arrested.
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Re: Al-Shabaab fleeing Kismaayo

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Shaarib24 wrote:Arent you forgetting the most important reason why Taliban is still a factor in Afghanistan ? Taliban would've been in the dustbin of history if it wasn't for the support of Pakistan who is keeping them alive as a strategic pond. Every time the Taliban are chased they run over the border, rest, re-group and get weapons from the pakistani state and then come back fresh for more fighting. With neighbours like ours, you have to explain how they can survive .

Just this summer a Taliban commander admitted that they can't win the war. The americans will perhaps widraw most of their troops, establish a base and use even more drones in the future. So the Taliban soldiers will have to hide , never being able to fully gain a status as a government that can rule .

Shabaab will not be totaly gone, but even a state like Mexico has thousand who die every year in the drug war. It doesn't mean that the Mexican government will vanish. It means there are challenges.

Soon enough Somalia will be on its feet, and the terror group known as Shabaab will be gone like the nightmare they are.
You're mistaken; the Taliban wouldn't have been in the dustbin of history without the support of Pakistan. Their leader Omar or official spokesman never claimed they can't win the war. It was a purported interview of an unknown commander by a Western journalist. Even if such an interview happened, the commander was referring to head to head confrontation against Western military. You can't expect a skinny Faarax to win against a Mike Tyson type boxer. But Faarax trains and spars with Mike Tyson every day, and in the long run he will become the better fighter who will ultimately defeat his opponent.

You talked about "Soon enough"; how long will you give them? 6 months, 1 year, more? And what if you're proven wrong as many like you have been proven wrong?
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Re: Al-Shabaab fleeing Kismaayo

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HutuKing01 wrote:Once Wilaayada Islaamiga exit Kismaayo , chaos and jaahiliyah will return to the city.Cagdheer warlords and ilkayar warlords fighting over the city, Kenyan soldiers raping the muslimas, young people with signs of sunnah arrested.
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It will be a great trial for the pious believers, indeed.
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