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Re: the biggest mistake in somali history

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Shirwac_1 wrote:What would you have suggested?
AbdiWahab252 wrote:it would have made more sense to switch to a modified form of the Arabic script as a vast majority of Somalis can read and write in Arabic script.
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Re: the biggest mistake in somali history

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Learning a new script is not that much more difficult. Somalis are taught quran which makes them learn to write in Arabic. In fact, unless you had access to formal school education, you may never need to use the Roman script in Somalia.
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Re: the biggest mistake in somali history

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:steviej: loooooooooooooooool Osmyana script

Looks like fake Ethiopian.......Wiki says it was invented in 1922..

So no. ( Unless there are good reasons then I will maybe consider it)
And forget that Afro-Asiatic stuff, sure our languages have similar roots and origins etc ( I'm a internet scholar so I know :lol: )
But why should we use the same alphabet as them? In which they all stole from eachother Lol ( Read the history of the Arabic Alphabet....it's interesting)
Perhaps we should use Arabic then???? Lol

There are also other somali alphabets we can use.

There is

Wadaad's Writting ( I am against....it's arabic and we are not arabs)
Borama Script
Kaddare alphabet....

Whichever is the oldest and most Somali gets my vote

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Re: the biggest mistake in somali history

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Abdiwahab-

Somalis only need to learn one script now for Somali, English, Italian, etc. You telling me Somalis having to be forced to learn multiple scripts, adapting to different infrastructure for print, for new curriculum, etc would have been more wise and cost effective?

Somalis for an ill-developed society now have zero communication problems in the information age because we use Latin, imagine a country like China even with such ancient and unique writing have a pain in the neck developmental challenge like that?

Btw Arabic was a hot competitor but even in the 60's was rejected because Arabic cannot write the full expanse of Somali. I see you have not done your reading on the history of the Somali orthography process.

Latin has made it easier for us than we think.
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Re: the biggest mistake in somali history

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this was a letter written in Osmanya script.

many scholars campaigned for this script to use be used as a official Somali writing.
many of whom scholars decended from Puntland region one of them was Hirsi Magan (ayaan hirsi father) and it was the beginning of the SSDF movement hence why Afweyne rejected it
as a result this was one of the reasons the scholars joined te SSDF movement.
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owels

Vowels are differentiated by length and voice. A vowel can be long or short and have either breathy voice, harsh voice or modal voice.
Monophthongs:

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Essentially, that means that essentially, there are 108 different monophonic vowel pronunciations.

Diphthongs:
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The diphthongs also carry either a modal voice, harsh voice or a breathy voice.

Somali is also tonal with three tones that indicate grammatical functions rather than lexical differences.

Example: ínan (boy) inán (girl) or daméer (male donkey) dameér (female donkey).

Tone is carried by the mora, rather than the vowel of a given syllable. Stress is attached to tone. High tone (´) carries strong stress with falling tone (ˆ) carrying low stress. The low tone (`) carries no stress.

There’s also a consonant sandhi that occurs where either assimilation or elision may occur. The elision process is highly unusual amongst any living language. For example, /lt/ changes to /ʃ/

Coalescense may also occur which would assimilate two words following sandhi rules. This mostly depends on the speed of speech or the individual speaker.

There is a vowel harmony rule, where it is organized into front-back groups. Sometimes the harmony may extend beyond a single word, creating a “Harmonic Group”

Intonation is an important prosodic tool and is unrelated to tone.

Despite these complexities, Somali is currently mostly written in a version of Latin that provides many ambiguities.
See basicaly what I mean guys is Arabic and Latin both fail to express Somali fully Only Osmanya script is fit for this.
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Re: the biggest mistake in somali history

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its all good let them use it in Budh-lyn, we will get rid of them for a while till a keyboard is made for their clan.
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what about Kaddare Script and Boorama Script... :ufdup:
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Re: the biggest mistake in somali history

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no qabiil script, we will stick with the holly Roman alphabet.
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Jaamac1975 wrote:no qabiil script, we will stick with the holly Roman alphabet.
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horta xanaaq badanidaa adigu 8-)
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Re: the biggest mistake in somali history

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carmalka xun hadii caruurtooda seexin lahaayeen ..waayeelku ma xanaaqeen.
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Haddii aa waxgarad tahay, u macnee. Canaane looma baahna, qofkasta fikradiisa uu dhiibanaa.
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Re: the biggest mistake in somali history

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maxaa ugu macanayna ma anaa dhalay.
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maxaa u xanaaqee marka? qof kasta xor waaye, waxay aaminsan yihiin ey soo qorayaan.
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Re: the biggest mistake in somali history

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qof kaste waa xor fikradiisa, laakiin sheekh Isxaaq baa ah ina Rag Zag Nag fikrad maahee waa edab daro , kaas waa in afka laga gubaa.
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