The predicament of anti Somaliland groups

[Coldoon]

from 1991 till present day its called the Somaliland republic.

Who calls it that?

[Khalid Ali]

from 1991 till present day its called the Somaliland republic.

Who calls it that?

Every one calls it that.

[original dervish]

khalid

whatever they call it, it has become almost irrelevant these days.

[Mondey]

you are contradicting yourself, how can Isaaq challenge D/M, Hawiye and Darood but Dir can't in TODAYS Somalia (on north vs south basis) when you actually have less seats and representatives than Dir? the entire Isaaq family that live almost entirely inside Somalia have 27 seats while only the portion of Dir that lives in Somalia have some 34 seats! i think you are the one with number issues, Dir are at least ruling one country in the horn and participating in 2.25 other states. and despite being spread in 3 countries they still managed to have more representatives than Isaaq in mogadisho. i think its the other way around and without Dir no Isaaq can have one of the top 3 seats in todays somalia.
according to UNDP north population by region.
Isaaq- 60%
Harti- 23%
Dir- 17%

[Siciid85]

Dir can't challenge Rahweyne or Darood for top seats for many reasons such as number and land. Dir couldn't challenge those groups in a democratic government in the
past nevermind this 4.5 system that undermines major groups.If Dir which is 7% of former Somali repulic previously failed to have the top three seats in a
Somali government that consists from Ras Kamboni to Seylac, what hope will they have in a government that is biased towards the south? common sense.
Which is why the likes of Proffesor Ahmed Samatar knows he can't challenge those groups without Isaaq the major group in the north on the fold. We are not
talking about Djibouti but former Somali republic (Somaliland and Somalia) and UNDP is not really that reliable it has many conflicting reports that change within
months.

[Mondey]

Tell how can isaaq challenge the southern groups when they have less representatives in 4.5 than even Dir let alone the others? If Dir is not getting a top 3 seat then Isaaq will never get in the 4.5 common sense. since Isaaq have less (seats) and land than (Dir) Hawiye Darood (RahanW). so if a Isaaq wants to be something in todays Somalia he cannot do it without Dir and Omaar knows that. im speaking about todays Somali under 4.5 and not the past. yes Dir have less numbers (in somalia) than Isaaq yet they have more representatives which shows you who needs who.
that BSL census is outdated and no longer reliable. UNDP is the most accurate and recent.

[Coldoon]

you are contradicting yourself, how can Isaaq challenge D/M, Hawiye and Darood but Dir can't in TODAYS Somalia (on north vs south basis) when you actually have less seats and representatives than Dir? the entire Isaaq family that live almost entirely inside Somalia have 27 seats while only the portion of Dir that lives in Somalia have some 34 seats! i think you are the one with number issues, Dir are at least ruling one country in the horn and participating in 2.25 other states. and despite being spread in 3 countries they still managed to have more representatives than Isaaq in mogadisho. i think its the other way around and without Dir no Isaaq can have one of the top 3 seats in todays somalia.

Siciid's attempt in trying to sound relevant failed miserably.

[Siciid85]

Isaaq has previously set their mark in a democratic government even though there was cheating incidents like the Walanweyn incident of the Koonfurians and
are today content with a thriving Somaliland nor can those so called Somalia officials that you think represent you set foot in Somaliland thus they are not
representative of the Somaliland people. That is enough to show even though being 22% of the Somali republic that they are the sole representatives of
former British Somaliland, in the early 1960 it was Isaaq vs Hawiye, Rahanweyn, Darood for the top seats. Now were was the mythical Dir? you have failed
in the past and failed today again due to your ignorance, arrogance of the Somali demographics, the likes of once delusional Prof Ahmed Samatar have accepted
their place and realized they are just 7% of the Somali republic, past or present.

Jaamac Cabdilaahi Qaalib speaker of parliament of Somali republic 1960-1964.



Egal former prime minster of Somali republic.

[Khalid Ali]

Monday but here is the catch isaaq is not trying to become something in Somalia its you who needs an alliance not isaaq, because isaaq is not interested in a top seat in Somalia. its samatar who wanted to become President of Somalia but he had no support from his gadabuursi clan as you claim and not from the isaaq tribal family. Ciise has 8 seats in Somalia federal parliament and they live in half a district in Somaliland seylac district Dhulbahante who live in a whole region have 8 seats in the federal parliament do you see what is wrong with the system.

[Coldoon]

Ciise has 8 seats in Somalia and they live in half a district in Somalia Dhulbahante who live in a whole region have 8 seats do you see what is wrong with the system.

The only few times I wholeheartedly agree with you. How is it possible, Dhulbahante to end up with 8 seats as Ciise.

[Mondey]

Monday but here is the catch isaaq is not trying to become something in Somalia its you who needs an alliance not isaaq, because isaaq is not interested in a top seat in Somalia. its samatar who wanted to become President of Somalia but he had no support from his gadabuursi clan as you claim and not from the isaaq tribal family. Ciise has 8 seats in Somalia and they live in half a district in Somaliland seylac district Dhulbahante who live in a whole region have 8 seats in the federal parliament do you see what is wrong with the system.

you are saying Isaaq was not interestd in top seat then who the hell was Omaar, a Isaaq ghost? look what applies on Samatar applies on Omaar.

[Coldoon]

you are saying Isaaq was not interestd in top seat then who the hell was Omaar, a Isaaq ghost? look what applies on Samatar applies on Omaar.

Exactly. If Samatar represents Samaroon, than Omaar represents Isaaq.

[Siciid85]

Nobody claims Omar represents Isaaq, he was even refused to attend his own father's funeral, his a outcast. Were's Prof Ahmed Samatar is respected within
the Awdal community from what i have seen, thus it means the failure has many sympathizers.

[Mondey]

Isaaq has previously set their mark in a democratic government even though there was cheating incidents like the Walanweyn incident of the Koonfurians and
are today content with a thriving Somaliland nor can those so called Somalia officials that you think represent you set foot in Somaliland thus they are not
representative of the Somaliland people. That is enough to show even though being 22% of the Somali republic that they are the sole representatives of
former British Somaliland, in the early 1960 it was Isaaq vs Hawiye, Rahanweyn, Darood for the top seats. Now were was the mythical Dir? you have failed
in the past and failed today again due to your ignorance, arrogance of the Somali demographics, the likes of once delusional Prof Ahmed Samatar has accepted
their place and realized they are just 7% of the Somali republic, past or present.

always emotional

how does it feel when a 7% have more representatives than a 22%

i know it makes you

[abdikarim86]

Lool at the 4.5 formula being used to represent population.
Ciise who only live in saylac and lawyacado and not even exclusively
Since samaroon and Isaaqs are present have 8 seats in the TFG.


Samatr and Oomaar should come home.