Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join MI5

Daily chitchat.

Moderators: Moderators, Junior Moderators

Forum rules
This General Forum is for general discussions from daily chitchat to more serious discussions among Somalinet Forums members. Please do not use it as your Personal Message center (PM). If you want to contact a particular person or a group of people, please use the PM feature. If you want to contact the moderators, pls PM them. If you insist leaving a public message for the mods or other members, it will be deleted.
User avatar
AbdiWahab252
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 56715
Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2003 7:00 pm
Location: Unity. Strength. Capital.

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join

Post by AbdiWahab252 »

kambuli wrote:Abakar,

Nothing justifies to label a terrorist anyone who goes back to Somalia...We are like any other nation, people visit their motherland every now and then..The only problem we Somalis have is an unstable government that can't protect its nationals..Hopefully this gov't will work with its nationals and Somalis will be spared from harrasment everywhere..
I was always suspicious of young SOmali males from overseas. I understand the concerns of their host governments after all of the extremist activity. The Somali government must also ask these Western governments and all other governments to send back supporters/sympathizers of Al Shabab back to Xamar for investigation and clearance.
User avatar
kambuli
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 17268
Joined: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:20 pm
Location: Proud Toothless Old Faqash Woman

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join

Post by kambuli »

Excuse me :holdup: Why would you be suspicious about any young Somali that visits his homeland? Do you realize that every family didn't get the chanceto have all of their family members to be together? So many siblings, grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins etc etc are still back home..It is not easy for them to visit Europe or the West in general so it is easier for those abroad to visit their homeland..Not only that sometimes the parents send their kids so they get aquainted with their roots..some go there to get married...


I have yet to see some Somali youngsters that sympathies with a terror group... :down:
union
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 9071
Joined: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:02 pm

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join

Post by union »

I don't understand why these intelligence agencies are discriminating against secular somali youth in favor of hiring these bearded lunatics. WTF
User avatar
Somaliman50
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 5850
Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:11 pm

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join

Post by Somaliman50 »

kambuli wrote:Abakar,

Nothing justifies to label a terrorist anyone who goes back to Somalia...We are like any other nation, people visit their motherland every now and then..The only problem we Somalis have is an unstable government that can't protect its nationals..Hopefully this gov't will work with its nationals and Somalis will be spared from harrasment everywhere..
Other people's motherland are not a security threat to Britannia's welfare, they are just looking out for their own interests..i know it hurts that i probably can't see my country for the forthcoming years given this kind of situation, but then how can i blame the govt if i take the dumb and risky action of going back home and expecting to not be harrased when i return to the UK? Shar intaad u jeedid ayaa layska celiyaa..
User avatar
kambuli
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 17268
Joined: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:20 pm
Location: Proud Toothless Old Faqash Woman

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join

Post by kambuli »

Abakar,

So is it a crime now to visit Somalia?..I don't think that is fair. We know Somalia is a failed state and all kinds of crooks can take advantage otf the situation. Hopefully the elected government will clear the confusion.
But if there is a concern, can't the kids get their clearance before they visit Somalia?
Cherine
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 4836
Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:35 am

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join

Post by Cherine »

All blame is on Al Shabab, who made it near impossible for Somalis to visit their homeland without arousing suspicion.
User avatar
Somaliman50
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 5850
Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:11 pm

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join

Post by Somaliman50 »

kambuli wrote:Abakar,

So is it a crime now to visit Somalia?..I don't think that is fair. We know Somalia is a failed state and all kinds of crooks can take advantage otf the situation. Hopefully the elected government will clear the confusion.
But if there is a concern, can't the kids get their clearance before they visit Somalia?
The govt will do everything to monitor and track the youth who go back home..but i agree there should be some freedom at least albeit restricted.

Sunny, i like your avatar mashallah, look like my lil sisters... the french hat :up:
Cherine
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 4836
Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:35 am

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join

Post by Cherine »

Yeah aint they cute? :)
Executive
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 13911
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:08 pm

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join

Post by Executive »

SunnyFlowerfreak wrote:All blame is on Al Shabab, who made it near impossible for Somalis to visit their homeland without arousing suspicion.


Look at this uncle tom. He got stripped off his citizenship and was sent to a jail and you are blaming it all on Shabab?. These kind of stuff happens all over the world and ever prior to Shabab. I remember in Sweden a couple of years ago 2 Egyptian born guys were taken from their house, flown in a CIA plane and sent to Egyptian jail where they were tortured. Who is the blame for that? Muslim Brotherhood perhaps? It took a couple of years to release them and they got small compensation, but still.
Executive
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 13911
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:08 pm

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join

Post by Executive »

union wrote:I don't understand why these intelligence agencies are discriminating against secular somali youth in favor of hiring these bearded lunatics. WTF


:lol: :lol:
Cumar-Labasuul
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 11028
Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:21 pm

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join

Post by Cumar-Labasuul »

Wallahi I was reading this story in the paper today and thought the situation we are in was so sad. These 'people' let them enjoy the powers they think they possess they think they can eradicate Islam let them see who will save them on the day of reckoning.

Ilaahow umadda muslimiinta badbaadi oo iimaan iyo samir ku barakee, cadowgana qalbigooda quful.
User avatar
SimplySerene
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1575
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:45 am

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join

Post by SimplySerene »

SunnyFlowerfreak wrote:All blame is on Al Shabab, who made it near impossible for Somalis to visit their homeland without arousing suspicion.

All blame can't be put on Al Shabab. Alshabab would not exist if it wasn't for the warlords holding the people hostage. And the warlords would not existed if there was an actual functioning government providing safety and security to its people. The blame should be put on Al shabab, warlords, incompetent gov't, foreign interference, the civil war, dictatorship
union
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 9071
Joined: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:02 pm

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join

Post by union »

Cumar-Labasuul wrote:Wallahi I was reading this story in the paper today and thought the situation we are in was so sad. These 'people' let them enjoy the powers they think they possess they think they can eradicate Islam let them see who will save them on the day of reckoning.

Ilaahow umadda muslimiinta badbaadi oo iimaan iyo samir ku barakee, cadowgana qalbigooda quful.
Care to clarify who this "cadow" attempting to eradicate Islam is?
Cherine
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 4836
Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:35 am

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join

Post by Cherine »

SimplySerene,

Before Al Shabab, Somalia was not known for religious extremism, terrorism, there were no suicide bombings, no foreign troops, no CIA bases. Somalis were not suspected of anything if they decided to visit relatives there.
Cumar-Labasuul
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 11028
Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:21 pm

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join

Post by Cumar-Labasuul »

Alshabab = existed since 2006
Camp Lemonnier = existed since 2001

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Lemonnier


yep alshabab is to blame


union, why don't you work it out for yourself if you are so smart
Locked
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “General - General Discussions”