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Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:46 pm
by AbdiWahab252
kambuli wrote:Abakar,
Nothing justifies to label a terrorist anyone who goes back to Somalia...We are like any other nation, people visit their motherland every now and then..The only problem we Somalis have is an unstable government that can't protect its nationals..Hopefully this gov't will work with its nationals and Somalis will be spared from harrasment everywhere..
I was always suspicious of young SOmali males from overseas. I understand the concerns of their host governments after all of the extremist activity. The Somali government must also ask these Western governments and all other governments to send back supporters/sympathizers of Al Shabab back to Xamar for investigation and clearance.
Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:58 pm
by kambuli
Excuse me

Why would you be suspicious about any young Somali that visits his homeland? Do you realize that every family didn't get the chanceto have all of their family members to be together? So many siblings, grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins etc etc are still back home..It is not easy for them to visit Europe or the West in general so it is easier for those abroad to visit their homeland..Not only that sometimes the parents send their kids so they get aquainted with their roots..some go there to get married...
I have yet to see some Somali youngsters that sympathies with a terror group...

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:03 pm
by union
I don't understand why these intelligence agencies are discriminating against secular somali youth in favor of hiring these bearded lunatics. WTF
Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:04 pm
by Somaliman50
kambuli wrote:Abakar,
Nothing justifies to label a terrorist anyone who goes back to Somalia...We are like any other nation, people visit their motherland every now and then..The only problem we Somalis have is an unstable government that can't protect its nationals..Hopefully this gov't will work with its nationals and Somalis will be spared from harrasment everywhere..
Other people's motherland are not a security threat to Britannia's welfare, they are just looking out for their own interests..i know it hurts that i probably can't see my country for the forthcoming years given this kind of situation, but then how can i blame the govt if i take the dumb and risky action of going back home and expecting to not be harrased when i return to the UK? Shar intaad u jeedid ayaa layska celiyaa..
Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:52 pm
by kambuli
Abakar,
So is it a crime now to visit Somalia?..I don't think that is fair. We know Somalia is a failed state and all kinds of crooks can take advantage otf the situation. Hopefully the elected government will clear the confusion.
But if there is a concern, can't the kids get their clearance before they visit Somalia?
Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:56 pm
by Cherine
All blame is on Al Shabab, who made it near impossible for Somalis to visit their homeland without arousing suspicion.
Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:03 pm
by Somaliman50
kambuli wrote:Abakar,
So is it a crime now to visit Somalia?..I don't think that is fair. We know Somalia is a failed state and all kinds of crooks can take advantage otf the situation. Hopefully the elected government will clear the confusion.
But if there is a concern, can't the kids get their clearance before they visit Somalia?
The govt will do everything to monitor and track the youth who go back home..but i agree there should be some freedom at least albeit restricted.
Sunny, i like your avatar mashallah, look like my lil sisters... the french hat

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:10 pm
by Cherine
Yeah aint they cute?

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:11 pm
by Executive
SunnyFlowerfreak wrote:All blame is on Al Shabab, who made it near impossible for Somalis to visit their homeland without arousing suspicion.
Look at this uncle tom. He got stripped off his citizenship and was sent to a jail and you are blaming it all on Shabab?. These kind of stuff happens all over the world and ever prior to Shabab. I remember in Sweden a couple of years ago 2 Egyptian born guys were taken from their house, flown in a CIA plane and sent to Egyptian jail where they were tortured. Who is the blame for that? Muslim Brotherhood perhaps? It took a couple of years to release them and they got small compensation, but still.
Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:13 pm
by Executive
union wrote:I don't understand why these intelligence agencies are discriminating against secular somali youth in favor of hiring these bearded lunatics. WTF

Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:16 pm
by Cumar-Labasuul
Wallahi I was reading this story in the paper today and thought the situation we are in was so sad. These 'people' let them enjoy the powers they think they possess they think they can eradicate Islam let them see who will save them on the day of reckoning.
Ilaahow umadda muslimiinta badbaadi oo iimaan iyo samir ku barakee, cadowgana qalbigooda quful.
Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:29 pm
by SimplySerene
SunnyFlowerfreak wrote:All blame is on Al Shabab, who made it near impossible for Somalis to visit their homeland without arousing suspicion.
All blame can't be put on Al Shabab. Alshabab would not exist if it wasn't for the warlords holding the people hostage. And the warlords would not existed if there was an actual functioning government providing safety and security to its people. The blame should be put on Al shabab, warlords, incompetent gov't, foreign interference, the civil war, dictatorship
Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:31 pm
by union
Cumar-Labasuul wrote:Wallahi I was reading this story in the paper today and thought the situation we are in was so sad. These 'people' let them enjoy the powers they think they possess they think they can eradicate Islam let them see who will save them on the day of reckoning.
Ilaahow umadda muslimiinta badbaadi oo iimaan iyo samir ku barakee, cadowgana qalbigooda quful.
Care to clarify who this "cadow" attempting to eradicate Islam is?
Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:33 pm
by Cherine
SimplySerene,
Before Al Shabab, Somalia was not known for religious extremism, terrorism, there were no suicide bombings, no foreign troops, no CIA bases. Somalis were not suspected of anything if they decided to visit relatives there.
Re: Young Muslim loses UK citizenship after refusing to join
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:37 pm
by Cumar-Labasuul
Alshabab = existed since 2006
Camp Lemonnier = existed since 2001
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Lemonnier
yep alshabab is to blame
union, why don't you work it out for yourself if you are so smart