Shia V Sunni (who are the ahlu nabii)?

[KingBlack]

Shia and Sunni= Two Stone Age Niggers though i fine Shias to be more peacefull than Sunnis

shia r not peaceful look @Iraq over 50,000 sunnis r dead cus of al sadr criminal gangs shia r jews not muslims

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Most of civilians killed in Iraq was Shias and they were killed suicice bombers from Sunni salafi lunatics,,,,,,, and there was no singel suicide Shia attack against sunnis in Irak while SUNNI carried our hounred of thousens suicide car bombing against shia inside masjid, local markets,. schools.. offices,, you name it....

[MidriGeez]

What kind of stupid question is this? Shias are not regarded as Muslims, except for the Zaidi sect.

Actually all Shia's are muslims except for the rafidha, the only thing wrong with the general shia is that they hate certain companions, other then that they are fine.

Can i say the same about the followers of Othaimeen and Ibn Taymiyya who attribute Allah with body parts?

Hate/Curse Sahaba = Big Sin.
Hate/Curse Aisha = Kufr.

The problem with cursing the sahaba is they indirectly attack the base of islam, if the sahaba is what they say they are then its them who compiled the koran so the whole islam would drop. Yahudi way of doing things since the shia are their apprentice, By the way in order to justify that cursing the sahaba is legit among their shia followers they tell them that its not the real koran anyway rather the real koran would be brought by the imam mahdi which is 3 times bigger than our koran. If Any shia believes in this then he becomes Kaaaaaafir no question about it, if he believes in the infidelity of the imams then he is really curving towards Kufr, if he assigns attribuite to the imams which is only Allah swt has like knowing the future etc then this is considered Kufr also, if the shia is ignorant and hasn't fully reached that level of shia beliefs then the islamic scholars calls him muslim who is astray.

[ZubeirAwal]

Lets leave the judging for Allah, we have no concret evidence of such acts of being kuffar, regarding statements from the Quran, as in the quran Allah obviously gives us rules and there are ayahs that tell you what makes one a kafir, as for the Shi'a, lets not contribute more to the muslim divide, after all this is all what the enemies of islam and the shaytan wants, I hate them for cursing Ummul Mu'mineen Radhiyallahu 3anha, aswell as the great sahaba of Allah, but i call them kafir because of that, because i don't have anything to back up the claim, lest there is a hadith of one leaving Islam if he insults or an ayah.

I regard them as them being misleaded and are misleading, however Allah will always forgive if they realize what they are doing, kuffr is related to shirk, and there is only one sin that Allah never forgives, and that is shirk, associating partners and other god with Allah cannot be compared with cursing the sahaba, thats why i say they are muslims, but mislead.

Can a kafir preform Hajj?

for 1400 years none of the Ulema and sharifs of the Ummah prohibited the Shia from Makkah and medina, infact they welcomed them, let them believe what they wanna believe, but the bottom line is that they are muslims like us, and we are all gonna be equally judged one day.

[MidriGeez]

Lets leave the judging for Allah, we have no concret evidence of such acts of being kuffar, regarding statements from the Quran, as in the quran Allah obviously gives us rules and there are ayahs that tell you what makes one a kafir, as for the Shi'a, lets not contribute more to the muslim divide, after all this is all what the enemies of islam and the shaytan wants, I hate them for cursing Ummul Mu'mineen Radhiyallahu 3anha, aswell as the great sahaba of Allah, but i call them kafir because of that, because i don't have anything to back up the claim, lest there is a hadith of one leaving Islam if he insults or an ayah.

I regard them as them being misleaded and are misleading, however Allah will always forgive if they realize what they are doing, kuffr is related to shirk, and there is only one sin that Allah never forgives, and that is shirk, associating partners and other god with Allah cannot be compared with cursing the sahaba, thats why i say they are muslims, but mislead.

Can a kafir preform Hajj?

for 1400 years none of the Ulema and sharifs of the Ummah prohibited the Shia from Makkah and medina, infact they welcomed them, let them believe what they wanna believe, but the bottom line is that they are muslims like us, and we are all gonna be equally judged one day.

We always leave the judgement for allah but its our job to tell if someone is following the Kufr path. you are telling me if a muslim came and tells you this koran is corrupt and their imams have the same quality as allah swt while cursing the sahaba and aisha RA you would still call them on the path of islam???? very strange indeed. Allah swt said that the koran would never be corrupted and he is the only god with god powers no one beside him and aisha ra being a good person but u would take the muslim unity against the word of allah swt. Strange indeed, i would believe allah swt word anyday over muslim unity even if i was the last person on earth. Stuff muslim unity of we are going to compromise on the koran and islam, NO DEAL MATE.

The problem is not cursing the sahaba but rather the base of islam they believe koran is not the real one so they contradict allah swt when he said in the koran that he would protect the koran from corruption, they attribuite their imamas with godly powers contradicting the koran as well, if you believe anyone has a god power apart from allah swt THAT IS SHIRK YOU MIGHT AS WELL BECOME HINDU. No compromise when it comes to the base of islam and there is no misleading about this this is too far. Be carefull of approving shia doctrine on here as someone might read it and believe it and allah swt would ask you how could you approve that my words and koran which i promised won't be corrupt is corrupt, not knowing is not an excuse in islam if you don't know about this topic then don't input any guesses.

About the hajj the shia are allowed to hajj because they use "Taqiya" which means they lie about their real beliefs, if they arrive in saudia arabia and say that they don't this koran is real and their imams has god like power they would be banned from entering mecca till they repent and change their views, but they never ever talk loudly when in mecca and few who are caught cursing the sahaba infront of their graves are arrested jailed and deported and may never enter mecca again (the shia usually curse the sahaba under the breath when approaching the sahaba graves). the shia were only allowed into mecca because you have to give the benefit of the doubt to each individual about their belief untill there is a proof beyond doubt e.g cursing the sahaba loudly etc then they would be banned. If netenyahu said he converted to islam and everyone knows he is lying and went to mecca you have to allow him in base on benefit of the doubt, if he is lying only allah swt knows, and if allah swt wants him exposed then he would do something for the truth to appear.

[Colonel]

Shias are misguided and may those that curse the sahaba be cursed thrice as hard.

Having said that Shias are better than us when it comes to foreign policy. Iran is the only Muslim country that stands up to the United Shaitan States, tiny Hezbollah karbashed the zionists in 06 whilst all Sunni armies couldn't do so. Shia backed Alawis in Syria are lasting over a year against the faggot Gulf Arabs and their USA father.

If a war broke out between Iran and KSA I might just support the former although that is wrong in so many ways.

[MidriGeez]

Shias are misguided and may those that curse the sahaba be cursed thrice as hard.

Having said that Shias are better than us when it comes to foreign policy. Iran is the only Muslim country that stands up to the United Shaitan States, tiny Hezbollah karbashed the zionists in 06 whilst all Sunni armies couldn't do so. Shia backed Alawis in Syria are lasting over a year against the faggot Gulf Arabs and their USA father.

If a war broke out between Iran and KSA I might just support the former although that is wrong in so many ways.

The shia never spilled blood for Islam, lets check history: they allied themselves with the byzantines,the mongols to enter baghdad where 1 million muslims were slaughtered, the shia passed the secret of entering baghdad and weak area's, they allied themselves with crusaders and it was the ayybis who saved muslims first by removing the fatimid shia rule in egypt who didn't even lift a finger while the muslims were slaughtered all around them then by removing the crusaders from quds and shipping the shia away from centre of syria into south of lebanon. The shia in forign policy is fake and weak, look at iraq when the sunni awakening happened and the sunni started to fight the shia maliki begged and pleaded to the americans hence the sunni awakening council was born where the sunni were bribed and given autonomy, even though the shia had all the power and army face to face shia can never stand against the sunni fighters.

Hezbollah lost the war against isreal, first there are 1 million unexploded cluser bombs in south lebanon, $10-$15 billion dollars worth of damage in lebanon and 25km buffer zone applied on hezbillah from their borders which means isreal can use the river for its own use now and if hizbollah ever attack again it will be the intl countries under UN who would wipe hizbollah out on behalf of isreal, dumb PR went wrong especially when 90% of the arabs are against hezbollah in a survey taken last month, Isreal used 1% of its military power fighting hezbilloah, next time they will wipe them out ,lol

If iran attacks saudia arabia i will be on the side of saudia arabia, hell i might go and join the war. But iran won't be foolish, a war with KSA is a war with pakistan and pakistan is much much stronger than iran, pakistan has nukes not only that they have the advance radar system on fighter jets which means in few days the skies over iran would be controlled by pakistan air force, they make their own weapons mainly with funds from saudia arabia like the kahlid 3 tanks, pakistan was voted the best army in 2010 based on tacticians and co-ordination with the british coming second. Leaving america/nato/russia/china A war Iran VS ksa and iran would get their ass kicked. It would be iran+hezbillah VS KSA+EGYPT+TURKEY+PAKISTAN + 80 MUSLIM COUNTRIES If we count that some countries would be neutrilsed from joining because of america/russia pressure. That is why the arabs are not scared not only they have the numbers they also pakistan who do you think funded pakistan to create nuclear weapons?? KSA THAT WAS WHO. I rather be dead than see the holy site under shia control the first thing they would do is go to omar/abubakr and osman graves and take their bones out and burn it.

By the way do you know what was KSA message to america about iran nuclear program??? if iran becomes a nuclear weapon capable country they would buy some stock pile of pakistan nuclear weapons to match the threat, why do you think isreal is panicking and wants iran not to have a nuclear weapons??? mainly because if iran gets it then KSA WOULD get it ready the next day and they can't say anything about it, but if they stopped iran then KSA won't have the excuse.

[Oba]

Shia and Sunni= Two Stone Age Niggers though i fine Shias to be more peacefull than Sunnis

Astaqfurullah

[DR-YALAXOOW]

hiloowle yes thats true laakiin Shias are much better than so called Sunnis!! Sunnis they invented( Suicide bombers) killing their follow muslims.... making takfiiri against other Muslims... so called SUNNIS qaasatan this Saudi invented sect Salafism is about only Hate and hate and killings and hate...


Shias are very peacefull muslims.. the only weard thing that shias Do if are hitting thei chest and banging their heads ....marka Shia xaal ha qaataan....

[Colonel]

If iran attacks saudia arabia i will be on the side of saudia arabia, hell i might go and join the war. But iran won't be foolish, a war with KSA is a war with pakistan and pakistan is much much stronger than iran, pakistan has nukes not only that they have the advance radar system on fighter jets which means in few days the skies over iran would be controlled by pakistan air force, they make their own weapons mainly with funds from saudia arabia like the kahlid 3 tanks, pakistan was voted the best army in 2010 based on tacticians and co-ordination with the british coming second. Leaving america/nato/russia/china A war Iran VS ksa and iran would get their ass kicked. It would be iran+hezbillah VS KSA+EGYPT+TURKEY+PAKISTAN + 80 MUSLIM COUNTRIES If we count that some countries would be neutrilsed from joining because of america/russia pressure. That is why the arabs are not scared not only they have the numbers they also pakistan who do you think funded pakistan to create nuclear weapons?? KSA THAT WAS WHO. I rather be dead than see the holy site under shia control the first thing they would do is go to omar/abubakr and osman graves and take their bones out and burn it.

By the way do you know what was KSA message to america about iran nuclear program??? if iran becomes a nuclear weapon capable country they would buy some stock pile of pakistan nuclear weapons to match the threat, why do you think isreal is panicking and wants iran not to have a nuclear weapons??? mainly because if iran gets it then KSA WOULD get it ready the next day and they can't say anything about it, but if they stopped iran then KSA won't have the excuse.

Of course Hezbollah can't match the jews in an out and out war but they did manage to humiliate them in the eyes of the world.

Why do you think all Muslim countries would join a war between KSA vs Iran? As long as Hijaz is left alone I couldn't care less what happens in Najd. Besides it's not as if Muslim armies could make a difference except Pakistan. Turkey is part of NATO so they don't count.

Shias are very peacefull muslims.. the only weard thing that shias Do if are hitting thei chest and banging their heads

[Oba]

hiloowle yes thats true laakiin Shias are much better than so called Sunnis!! Sunnis they invented( Suicide bombers) killing their follow muslims.... making takfiiri against other Muslims... so called SUNNIS qaasatan this Saudi invented sect Salafism is about only Hate and hate and killings and hate...


Shias are very peacefull muslims.. the only weard thing that shias Do if are hitting thei chest and banging their heads ....marka Shia xaal ha qaataan....

lol bro im just a muslim dont believe in sunni and shia.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

[. you are telling me if a muslim came and tells you this koran is corrupt and their imams have the same quality as allah swt while cursing the sahaba and aisha RA you would still call them on the path of islam???? very strange indeed. Allah swt said that the koran would never be corrupted and he is the only god with god powers no one beside him and aisha ra being a good person but u would take the muslim unity against the word of allah swt. Strange indeed, i would believe allah swt word anyday over muslim unity even if i was the last person on earth. Stuff muslim unity of we are going to compromise on the koran and islam, NO DEAL MATE.

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sxb thats pure proboganda against Shias... Shias does not believe Quran is corrupted or either they believe there are missing verses of the Quran.. Shias have identical Quran which Sunnis use whichs 114 Surah or 6666 verses of quran.. there is no A Singel verse which shias Quran differs than the Quran you and i know and Sunnis Use...


actually its Sunnis who believe quran is not complete.. forexample Sunnis believe according sunni hadiith there was verse send down by allah and some how that verse did not made in the quran we have today!! and yes that verse is so called STONING VERSE( rajm verse)... yes thats sunni salafi believe that some how ALLAHS WORD QURAN have missing verse called Rajm verse which did made in 6666 verses of the quran... and not only that Sunnis believe the verse about adult breastfeeding also was send down and aisha rc said a Goat eat it the papper which the verse was written down.. agains thats Sunnis who believe those verses did not made in the Quran.....

[DR-YALAXOOW]

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lol bro im just a muslim dont believe in sunni and shia.

Yes i also believe a Singel ISLAM.. actually before wahabism spread to islamic world from 1970s .. before that Islam was a singel religion-- SHIA AND SUNNI did not existed.... this sect wahabism thanks to saudi oil money they spread their hate and divition among muslims ... and first time word shias was heard in Somalia was 1979.... So i believe Islam should be One.. no sunni and no shias.... as long as you believe prophet mohamed sc is the prophet and god is one and quran is 114 suras and 6666 verses then your 100% muslim.... and yes SHIAS believe that...

[Oba]

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lol bro im just a muslim dont believe in sunni and shia.

Yes i also believe a Singel ISLAM.. actually before wahabism spread to islamic world from 1970s .. before that Islam was a singel religion-- SHIA AND SUNNI did not existed.... this sect wahabism thanks to saudi oil money they spread their hate and divition among muslims ... and first time word shias was heard in Somalia was 1979.... So i believe Islam should be One.. no sunni and no shias.... as long as you believe prophet mohamed sc is the prophet and god is one and quran is 114 suras and 6666 verses then your 100% muslim.... and yes SHIAS believe that...

Indeed

[MidriGeez]

hiloowle yes thats true laakiin Shias are much better than so called Sunnis!! Sunnis they invented( Suicide bombers) killing their follow muslims.... making takfiiri against other Muslims... so called SUNNIS qaasatan this Saudi invented sect Salafism is about only Hate and hate and killings and hate...


Shias are very peacefull muslims.. the only weard thing that shias Do if are hitting thei chest and banging their heads ....marka Shia xaal ha qaataan....

you only know hitting their chest about shia??? i presume you don't read or speak arabic then??? maybe you should read books about their religion if our biggest scholars called them out of fold of islam like ibn tamaiya and imam malik and ibn hanbil etc then you have no right to wrong them and believe the shia unless offcourse you are one.