C\qaasim on Fowsiyo Yuusuf X.Aaden

[DonCorleone]

he is right
how can we trust the National security and integrity on this woman
what was Xassan xoole thinking appointing her as Foreign minister what if she seduces Ban Ki-moon when she visits UN general assemply in NY and he recognises Somaliland?

Looool

But it's a act of kinship, maybe Somaliland with join Somalia and become a province.

I think it is the right step!

[DonCorleone]

Somalia will be a federal Republic...just like numerous other FRep all over the world.
Jubbaland, Puntland and Galmudug will all have local elections, police, army, health/education authorities etc.

S/l will be indistinguishable from the other federal states, just one of many.
Recognition as an independent state aint gonna happen, federalism has been your undoing.

State is a good idea, all the gobols become states like in America.

Good plan, and we unite and become united states of Somalia

so each gobol and can be ruled by themself.

[Khalid Ali]

No the framework that is being persevered for Somalia is to have autonomous states lose from each other that have more say about their regions than the federal government its self. In a normal country federalism would have made sense what we see in Somalia is senior Igad officials involving themselves in state making in parts of Somalia violating the very own constitution of the so called country. This will continue for a while since Igad has allot to say what happens in Somalia this was their plan see the states will be built an pure tribal foundations. This will clear the road for ancient old rivalries between the various tribes will spring up over the resources of the country and each of them will be used by the neighboring countries as vassal states this has been planned by the neighboring countries of Somalia. Somalia operates currently as a country with a federal government with limited control the rest of the county consists of lose components this will be encouraged by the neighboring countries Kullu şhayin yerciu ila aslihi- Puntland =the old Majeerteeniya sultanate.Jubaland is in the making and will have more links with kenya as they did in the past with the British east Africa the Kenyans will try to Link Kismayo with nairobi they are already constructing a massive road. The rest of the country will have smaller admins at subclan level will be established some allied to amisom some allied to the islamists and they will try also to have their autonomous state to. The Somaliland republic will continue to exist as an independent state whether recognized or not they will continue that path. Thats how its going to be my friend.

[original dervish]

S/l has been allied to Ethiopia for decades.
Didn`t you and your leading politicians claim to be closer to Amhara than Somalis?

Wasn`t you celebrating the new road built from Tog Wajale, linking S/l to xabashi?
Isn`t S/l whole economic policy about integrating with Ethiopia through Berbera port?


Jubbaland will be no different to S/l in many respects, just substitute Ethiopia for Kenya.
Sxb don`t be a hypocrite.... what's good for the goose is good for the gander

[Khalid Ali]

S/l has been allied to Ethiopia for decades.
Didn`t you and your leading politicians claim to be closer to Amhara than Somalis?

Wasn`t you celebrating the new road built from Tog Wajale, linking S/l to xabashi?
Isn`t S/l whole economic policy about integrating with Ethiopia through Berbera port?


Jubbaland will be no different to S/l in many respects, just substitute Ethiopia for Kenya.
Sxb don`t be a hypocrite.... what's good for the goose is good for the gander

Exactly my point modern Somali statehood as you dream of has come to an end

Ethiopia might have influence in Somaliland because its not yet a full fledged independent recognized republic the defacto status gives Ethiopia lots of leverage.
I will support any road that goes into Ethiopia Djibouti Somalia.

But Somalia autonomous states are not going for a full house they wish to remain an autonomous state being used by Kenya and even Ethiopia since Ethiopia and Kenya both border Somalia and its various autonomous states.

I am not a hypocrite i support what ever the people of Somalia support , and i want the people of Somalia to support what ever my people support.
I was just explaining to you how its going to be in the near future. The process of the balkinization of Somalia already began maybe not officially but it sure will not stop the unstoppable.

[original dervish]

Sxb......try to comprehend....Federal Republic of Somalia.
When peace spreads to all the Somali regions, S/L will not look unique/oasis, best kept secret blah blah blah!

Nobody of any significance supports secession, whether inside or outside the country.
Now you can keep the status quo going for another 50 years, nobody cares.
The rest of the federal states will move forward with or without youz lot.

[Khalid Ali]

You are not paying attention what is being built in Somalia are not federal states under a federal government what is being instructed by the neighboring countries Ethiopia and Kenya is to encourage the lose autonomous states and keep the status quo. Somalia has been in this mode for the past 22 years no territorial control sovereignty being violated and more foreign troops the lose entities will always undermine the federal government they will use their fiefdom as a bargaining chip against the weak federal government the neighboring countries thing its fine. What is going on in Somalia will continue for the time being. You will see it ur self its already happening with Jubbaland. And Puntland already considers its self an ally of the federal government for the time being they dont view themselves as coming under the jurisdiction of the federal government . But when ever things don't go their way we know what will happen. Faroole will threaten with secession if things are not done his way we have seen it before. I am just talking about facts and what we can expect you are talking about what you love to hear there is a difference. see ur problem is u keep talking about when this and that happens u have to look back were u were where u are and where will go in the future.

[original dervish]

Only Allah swt knows the future.
We can look at the past and present clearly.

What I see is an autonomous S/l and p/l and Galmudug.
Jubbaland will be established shortly insha`llah.

The federal Govt is weak, but getting stronger.
The foreign countries don`t look at the various states differently, all are seen as part of Somalia.

As more states are formed S/l case for independence diminishes.
I think even the most fanatical secessionists realise they will never be able to secede from Somalia.

[Khalid Ali]

This is not about SL and SL quest for recognition will not be derailed by more lose entities in Somalia its only positive, that will only hurt Somalia in the longer term. Since Somaliland will always deal with one of the many entities of Somalia as the sole representative of Somalia from raskambooni till raas caseer. But in reality the functionality of such a government will have minimum or little capacity to govern a few sub regions of Somalia. While in the mean time the autonomous states will be encouraged by Ethiopia Kenya and Uganda to operate us countries with in a country.

This is about Somalia that is no longer one entity but various entities all fighting for power all autonomous, the more states that pop up the weaker the federal government gets since non of these states will give the federal government some of its resources military capacity see more fiefdoms are about to be created no one wants to lose out. The idea of a Somalia entity that works as one country is long gone. And this is what we see today and few years back what the future brings we can only discuss but this is what we have today and that's what you have to work with.