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If these talks are driven by outside interest and is not something that came from Somalis, why bother?

In any case, Somaliland has no choice but to have an open dialogue with the south. 20 years of ictiraaf sugid can no longer be an excuse to hold the nation in Somaliland hostage just so so fat cats can feed on them like vultures. All these so called politicians and their empty promises have nothing to lose other then their sit since they have their families in the west, while those that vote for them and believe in them are trying to keep body soul together.

Notorious13 wrote:I think they should meet in Hargesia or Xamar i mean why not? why meet elsewhere.

Because its not neutral ground we need neutral ground Mogadisho and hargeysa not neutral territories. Thus Addis Ababa Ethiopia is the best option.

These talks are useless we have already debated them and proved them to be nothing but a waste of time the IC have already excluded the elephant in the room from the talks and that is the issue of somaliland.


so wtf is there to talk about? we don't give a damn about all 5 points in the talk agenda non of them address our major concern and that is the issue of somaliland, emprorer why are you obsessed with these 5 points talk?? the status of somaliland will never be mentioned Dr Beenaale already made it clear that the issue of somaliland will not be mentioned..never mind decided.

I'm sorry, have I missed something? What is HAG?
Don't tell me its another mini-state?

HAG= H/G hiding behind Hawiye,virulently anti Darod, most prominent member is chief advisor to the president, former president Abdulqasim.

The_Emperior5 wrote:They can be a balancing factor since they have both good ties with Mogadisho and Hargeysa (Somalia and Somaliland) i think they should be included as the mediating officials in the upcoming talks along with the international community.

most HAG members in Toronto have HY wivies cus of them HAG leaders r Habar Gider , Libaan Sacad wife is HY , and many others like him, somalia FM is part of HAG and her children all 8 r in xamar now all beesha Sacad reer Mudug children

What is a HAG ? something you made up here thinking it has any relevance on the ground ?
You all shoud take a break from time to time

SahanGalbeed wrote:What is a HAG ? something you made up here thinking it has any relevance on the ground ?
You all shoud take a break from time to time

Like you did. I see that the mental asylum did you good.

The HAG are like the mafia of the 1950s....everybody said they didnt exist.

abdi.ismail wrote:I'm sorry, have I missed something? What is HAG?
Don't tell me its another mini-state?

Hawiye Action Group, their leadership include forrmer snet members.