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DR-YALAXOOW wrote:Arabs are Good People I like Arabs Gods first language is Arabic : . in heaven all humanity will speak Arabic.. Arab are the masters of this planet .
Black people made of to be slaves of Arabs( according many scholars) . I like arabs

Yes, you're right, we Arab Somalis own Black Bantu slaves. You hit the nail on the head

Cumar, did you just say Somalis were treated better in Sudan in the past?

Somalis look more 'Arab' than Sudanese people themselves, if anything Somalis would be treated 10x better there than ANYWHERE in the world.

evry one is racist to some extend and prejudice. it's you scare what is known to you.

having said that, some somalis just hate everything and anything even themselvers.

Tbh this hatred of Arabs by Somalis stems from the out right dislikes Arsbs feel towards Somalis, which is itself a reaction to the general uncivilised behaviour of the modern day Somalis.
I mean once upon a time Smalis were regarding very highly in every single country in the world not just the Arab world. The name Somali was synonymous with everything good and beautiful. The reason for this was that the only people who travelled outside Somalia were the Isaaq's. my grandad god rest his soul and many like him spent time Aden working and making a living they earned the respect of the Arabs and were treated as equals and in some cases superior but never inferior. Today the world is able to few Somalis under belly it's lower immoral destructive tribes have been set free into the world and not surprising the world is discussed. Sadly in the process a reputation that's taken 100's years to build by the great pioneers has been the victim of the locust from the south. It's sad we share a name and a country. It also makes perfect sense the world knows we are different.

Hydrogen(belly dancer) i did not say bantu... i said Black people which means you and i and every black african are part of( black people)

hyperactive wrote:evry one is racist to some extend and prejudice. it's you scare what is known to you.

having said that, some somalis just hate everything and anything even themselvers.

Not all types of Racism is equal. Not all abuses are the same. Planting 200 nails into the body of a human only happens in Saudi arabia.
The question is, is this racism, ignorance, both and what is the cause of it. I believe this is not hatred (saudis do not hate people from indonesia) but ignorance from tradition compounded by authoritarian regimes that perpetuate a culture of abuse.
In the first post I tried to explain this ignorance from tradition that it's simply a form of culture that is inherit in the community due to deep rooted tradition that cannot be overcome by knowledge. The only solution is to change tradition through traditional means, ie public awareness through the tribal systems, educating school children and overhaul the justice system.

Ofcourse I do not want to make the mistake of using one isolated incident (one bad apple the American general would say ) and blow it out of proportion to come to sweeping conclusions. However, the issue of maid abuse in the Arab world, I believe, is rampant as the issue of child abuse in the Catholic Church (ask Desmond Hutu ) . However, I do not want to regress and go off topic. Please give your input into what you believe is the cause of this Arab racism, and are the Somalis justified in hating the Arabs if the injustice the Arabs are causing is not due to hatred of Somalis but out of ignorant from tradition.

skywalker25 wrote:Tbh this hatred of Arabs by Somalis stems from the out right dislikes Arsbs feel towards Somalis, which is itself a reaction to the general uncivilised behaviour of the modern day Somalis.
I mean once upon a time Smalis were regarding very highly in every single country in the world not just the Arab world. The name Somali was synonymous with everything good and beautiful. The reason for this was that the only people who travelled outside Somalia were the Isaaq's. my grandad god rest his soul and many like him spent time Aden working and making a living they earned the respect of the Arabs and were treated as equals and in some cases superior but never inferior. Today the world is able to few Somalis under belly it's lower immoral destructive tribes have been set free into the world and not surprising the world is discussed. Sadly in the process a reputation that's taken 100's years to build by the great pioneers has been the victim of the locust from the south. It's sad we share a name and a country. It also makes perfect sense the world knows we are different.

I was agreeing with your post until the last part, unwanted to be honest and attempting to spark something. Technically, you are no different from the ugly DR-YALAXOOW, let's be honest here. Instead of hiding behind our clans and pretending to feel better than others, look at yourself, right now. You probably live off welfare somewhere in Minnesota whilst someone else like me (whom shares no external appearances with ugly Somalis, again most likely like yourself) lives somewhere better. So calm down with that falsity. I myself have 'pioneered' a Somali image in where I live, yet you attempt to disband yourself from me, and I would by the way take the pleasure of such a gesture in a public environment because you are most likely more 'uglier' than moi. /rant over.

skywalker25 wrote:Tbh this hatred of Arabs by Somalis stems from the out right dislikes Arsbs feel towards Somalis, which is itself a reaction to the general uncivilised behaviour of the modern day Somalis.
I mean once upon a time Smalis were regarding very highly in every single country in the world not just the Arab world. The name Somali was synonymous with everything good and beautiful. The reason for this was that the only people who travelled outside Somalia were the Isaaq's. my grandad god rest his soul and many like him spent time Aden working and making a living they earned the respect of the Arabs and were treated as equals and in some cases superior but never inferior. Today the world is able to few Somalis under belly it's lower immoral destructive tribes have been set free into the world and not surprising the world is discussed. Sadly in the process a reputation that's taken 100's years to build by the great pioneers has been the victim of the locust from the south. It's sad we share a name and a country. It also makes perfect sense the world knows we are different.

You make a very good point. I believe the Somalis who went to the middle east in those early years were well off to do merchants who had the means of going their and coming back legally. They were in effect businessmen and not beggars. However, they were not confined to one tribe or region.

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure it which tribe those pioneering men hailed from. Today there offspring's are against all odds trying to building a nation. We are the ones the world looks at and grudging nods their heads at in admiration you are the ones it looks at in disgust and contempt. My forefathers built the Somali name and turned it into one the most respected. Lets not piss about its the truth. The Arabs and the rest of the world hates you. They can't all be wrong.

Talo, Isaaq's and our Somaliland subjects..

skywalker25 wrote:You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure it which tribe those pioneering men hailed from. Today there offspring's are against all odds trying to building a nation. We are the ones the world looks at and grudging nods their heads at in admiration you are the ones it looks at in disgust and contempt. My forefathers built the Somali name and turned it into one the most respected. Lets not piss about its the truth. The Arabs and the rest of the world hates you. They can't all be wrong.

Talo, Isaaq's and our Somaliland subjects..

Wait, you're telling me the world judges Somalis by Isaaq or Hawiye?

You need to serious help if you genuinely believe that, all that SNET has gotten to your head, I know an Isaaq Somali boy who acts like the most disgusting human being (loitering, behaving like an animal) whilst screaming Somaliland - yet, funnily enough; I don't deem him a representation of the Isaaq people. But you are lying to yourself if you believe anything you say have some truth to it.

P.s Arabs don't hate me, they hate you (a black skinned, rough haired, African) just look to your uncle X.Playa who was discriminated by Arabs.

skywalker25 wrote:You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure it which tribe those pioneering men hailed from. Today there offspring's are against all odds trying to building a nation. We are the ones the world looks at and grudging nods their heads at in admiration you are the ones it looks at in disgust and contempt. My forefathers built the Somali name and turned it into one the most respected. Lets not piss about its the truth. The Arabs and the rest of the world hates you. They can't all be wrong.

Talo, Isaaq's and our Somaliland subjects..

Skywalker, wallaahi I tried to steer you into the right way but you insisted. It's seems for the Zoomali mind, it's far much easier and entertaining to turn every topic and subject into a rotten backward tribal verbal diarrhea, than any meaningful discussion. I was waiting on the input on the more anti-arab posters on snet before this topic turns into a child's play.

Talo alle udaa wrote: Skywalker, wallaahi I tried to steer you into the right way but you insisted. It's seems for the Zoomali mind, it's far much easier and entertaining to turn every topic and subject into a rotten backward tribal verbal diarrhea, than any meaningful discussion. I was waiting on the input on the more anti-arab posters on snet before this topic turns into a child's play.

What an insult to him! He is not from Zoomalia, he is from Zoomaliland.

Talo sxb, It was not my intention to do so but it is the elephant in the room. For example if only the Arabs hated us we could maybe say, 'they are bad people'. But the truth is like I said. The whole world is sick and tired of Somalis. That includes us Somalilanders. We don't rob ships, we don't have terrorists, we have not hard constant anarchy for 20 years, but this makes no difference to the world. We are the problem sxb. We destroyed our country and made ourself into the world largest gypsies.


Hydrogen, I'm the son of a seamen and wallahi the stories my father told me about those early Somalis made me proud to be one. It's unfortunate you would never understand or maybe you weren't never meant to understand. I don't mean to insult you, just speaking my mind.
Also I agree that Isaaq's of unfortunate type do exist, however they are a few and far between and if you've met one be happy it's like seeing a leprichuan, the tooth fairy, Father Christmas all whilst flying through the Milky Way..

skywalker25, kid yourself not, Isaaq and Hawiye who live in London are no different from blacks in crime - let alone from each other. It would be a miracle to see an Isaaq who views themselves as different from your average Nigerian (infact they look up to Nigerians here). It's sad to see you with your perfected image of Somaliland, when in reality most of us good humans have to avoid being stabbed by Blacks/Somalis/Somalilanders alike. Pretending Somalilanders are saints in their own right is such a falsity and if they do exist please do tell me where, I have yet to meet a place where Somalis live that they don't behave savage.

Trust me, you haven't offended me (thanks for trying not, I hope I haven't offended you either ) but I'm the Hawiye savage who embarrass you and your grandparents, my family own a fleet of Mercedes, must be completely embarrassing to the Somali image eh? Look at us Southern Somalis speeding in our 2012 Mercedes, LOL! On a serious note, you need to see what you're saying, I don't know what is more weirder; your view of Somalia or Somaliland?

hydrogen wrote:

skywalker25 wrote:You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure it which tribe those pioneering men hailed from. Today there offspring's are against all odds trying to building a nation. We are the ones the world looks at and grudging nods their heads at in admiration you are the ones it looks at in disgust and contempt. My forefathers built the Somali name and turned it into one the most respected. Lets not piss about its the truth. The Arabs and the rest of the world hates you. They can't all be wrong.

Talo, Isaaq's and our Somaliland subjects..

Wait, you're telling me the world judges Somalis by Isaaq or Hawiye?

You need to serious help if you genuinely believe that, all that SNET has gotten to your head, I know an Isaaq Somali boy who acts like the most disgusting human being (loitering, behaving like an animal) whilst screaming Somaliland - yet, funnily enough; I don't deem him a representation of the Isaaq people. But you are lying to yourself if you believe anything you say have some truth to it.

P.s Arabs don't hate me, they hate you (a black skinned, rough haired, African) just look to your uncle X.Playa who was discriminated by Arabs.

It's interesting you don't apply this to black people. Double standards are a coon.