nactulah calayk Magic Johnson's son came out gay

[wiyeer]

@Tanker

Nobody is born gay, its just a myth created to to justify homosexuality. Scientists can make research till they're blue in the face
but the fact remains Allah created Adam and then created our mother Hawa out of his wisdom.
Incense, pedophilia and bestiality are considered immoral,deprave and sick yet they want to justify homosexuality based on the criteria that is "feelings". But these "feelings" are conveniently not allowed to be used to justify incense, pedophilia etc.

[MenaceToSociety]

@Tanker

Nobody is born gay, its just a myth created to to justify homosexuality. Scientists can make research till they're blue in the face
but the fact remains Allah created Adam and then created our mother Hawa out of his wisdom.
Incense, pedophilia and bestiality are considered immoral,deprave and sick yet they want to justify homosexuality based on the criteria that is "feelings". But these "feelings" are conveniently not allowed to be used to justify incense, pedophilia etc.

All hail the wisemen..I swear you made a point where no homo can argue abt...

[Turbulence]

I really feel sorry for black America. There is a massive campaign to promote homosexuality within their communities and their celebrities are being used to accomplish this. Jews are behind this campaign. All homosexuality brings is AIDs, moral decay, child abuse and the corruption of good values. It is scary raising kids in the West wallahi. I fear for my Somali people as well as we are target ted by many evil people with evil agendas.

[Keyblade]

I really feel sorry for black America. There is a massive campaign to promote homosexuality within their communities and their celebrities are being used to accomplish this. Jews are behind this campaign. All homosexuality brings is AIDs, moral decay, child abuse, world hunger, poverty, cancer, nuclear disaster and the corruption of good values. It is scary raising kids in the West wallahi. I fear for my Somali people as well as we are target ted by many evil people with evil agendas.

fixed for accuracy

[Turbulence]

LOL. I take it that is your way of disagreeing with what I said. Really didnt think this would offend anyone in this site. Both world hunger and nuclear disaster have nothing to do with fags and everything I said is true.

[Nomand]

Keyblade are u pro gay

[Keyblade]

no i just found the child abuse part funny. like...how?

[grandpakhalif]

child abuse can occur when the child is ridiculed by his peers for having gay parents or even the lack of a mother can be considered emotional abuse.

[Keyblade]

[MenaceToSociety]

Sey sheekadani ku socoto walee iyo bilee we will witness the incest civil rights...just hope u r alive for another 15 yrs and u will witness such a demand bc this homo thing is becoming mainstream...some dude, I think itl b grandpakhalif who will bring his sister to the court to demand to marry her bc itw his civil rights

[Basra-]

basra its not clear cut as you think.
there is evidence for a genetic link but it is very very rare,
its no more than 2% of the population.
but in some countries over 25% of the population is gay,
and if you believe some other studies that show that even a high number of hetrosexual men and women have engaged in sex with the opposite gender at least once in their lives.

It means there are also social , cultural and environmental factors that play a role.

gurey25

OFF ALL, the idiots above me-- u r the ONLY reasonable debater there is. You eloquently presented a well constructed argument that had sense, theoretical oral back-up- ala discreet and unaccounted 'surveys' & 'studies'. However, being sweet o'l me', I have to come with FULL ATTACK after of course, offering you a courtesy of validating your eloquent style of open minded argument.

First--there is NO SUCH thing as 25% homosexual in any feasible society. That figure is waaayyyy too high. In fact, even the most densely homosexuals populated western country --have something like 10% of homosexual. (or 14% if we want to go crazy)

Second of all, your 2% figure is absolutely BULL SHI!T. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL U cant tell me that--lets imagine the 25% figure is correct--- the studies show ONLY 2% of that big 25 that have a biological link to be born that way? Really gurey--do u even admit a sense of heightened discrepancy here---please breath and breath out, and confess these figures are bogus, and are only convenient for your discreet and unaccounted point of view.


Last but not least-- in regards to your other bogus imagined 'studies'---about 'high number' of heterosexual men and women having engaged in homosexual act- sometime in their lifetime-well that might be true-- but u cant use this normal happenstance to argue your point .(whatever point that is) By normal happenstance, I mean its normal for these homosexual acts experiments and curiosity among living things with sexuality capability.I mean, even in the Animal Kingdom--wild animal engage in homosexual mating-- that don't make them gay.

I agree that there are many born heterosexuals who engage in homosexual acts out of 'experiment' but that don't make them gay. IN fact, I have no doubt, in Quran-- ALlaah swt is speaking to these specific hetero men and women who are 'curious' as opposed to a natural and biologically born gay poor soul.


BE as it may--I must conclude and stress that homosexual act is a sin. Just because u r born gay, don't mean u should act gay or God forbid, 'assume' the position. Use religion of ISLAM and the love of ALLAAH swt to cure yourself of this biological error. And by cure, I don't mean it will even go away, or be cured, just don't do the act, and stay celibate and worship Allaah swt. U cant cure your nature, you are dealt with a green card forever! But you can definitely cure your habit and actions!

[gurey25]

the 25% figure is a typo i meant those who are definately hetero but engage in such activities.
Every single study of a genetic link has been debunked, but there clearly is a link isnt there?
this is why attention is focused on epigenetic research,
i know it sounds like lamarchism but is a serious field of study today.
epigentics through environmental factors could be the link to homosexuality and
gender non comfromity.
i am in favour of the "exotic is erotic" theory in the case of children experiencing gender non comformity i.e like boys playing with dolls etc.

and cultural changes as well,
it seems that in nomadic and hunter gatherers society this is very very rare,
this is where the 2% comes from and rates for homosexuality shoot through the roof when people settle down in farming communities and towns and cities.
this is a historical trend.

this must be an interesting subject for you basra, why is that?
do you suffer from this ailment as well.
i consider it a mental illness so i am not as homophopic as most people,
and i have been facinted by human sexuality, and always want to study.
it also helps that i used to live in Sydney, Australia the second gayest city in the world after San fransico, and 10 minutes from the gayest part of town.

[Basra-]

gurey25 I love your discreet way of admitting a 'typo' or mistake in your bogus 'studies' and 'surveys'.



Gurey, it seems like u r obsessed with 'epigenetic' studies. Good for u-- but to me, it doesn't mean anything. The environmental factors u talk about is nothing but ignorance at the subject in question. As far as I am concerned, environmental factors only applies to people who were not born gay. It is human nature to be curious, and thus when a big number of people are homos, it tends to become fashion and encourage curiosity. But that don't 'turn' these adventurers-- Gay--no-- I am talking about the people WHO are BORN gay. People whom u used an example falsely-or incorrectly--- the example of little boys playing with dolls and little girls playing with trucks. If there is any proof of people born gay--that is it. U Have a toddler who has NOT been influenced by anything external--or 'environmental' but they cry for toys that does not mesh with their gender. The parents can be in denial and reject their child to play with it but that only delays the inevitable.

gurey---I am shocked u live in the mecca of homosexuals? (Sydney Australia ) Poor darling, dearest you!


Am I fascinated with homosexuality? YES. Very much so. If I had the tool to do a study- walaahi I could easily figure this out and produce a reasonable reliable study that will debunk the entire world. I am also interested in HIV/AIDS a co-cousin of Homosexuality, I think this is my calling.

[wiyeer]

gurey25 I love your discreet way of admitting a 'typo' or mistake in your bogus 'studies' and 'surveys'.



Gurey, it seems like u r obsessed with 'epigenetic' studies. Good for u-- but to me, it doesn't mean anything. The environmental factors u talk about is nothing but ignorance at the subject in question. As far as I am concerned, environmental factors only applies to people who were not born gay. It is human nature to be curious, and thus when a big number of people are homos, it tends to become fashion and encourage curiosity. But that don't 'turn' these adventurers-- Gay--no-- I am talking about the people WHO are BORN gay. People whom u used an example falsely-or incorrectly--- the example of little boys playing with dolls and little girls playing with trucks. If there is any proof of people born gay--that is it. U Have a toddler who has NOT been influenced by anything external--or 'environmental' but they cry for toys that does not mesh with their gender. The parents can be in denial and reject their child to play with it but that only delays the inevitable.

gurey---I am shocked u live in the mecca of homosexuals? (Sydney Australia ) Poor darling, dearest you!


Am I fascinated with homosexuality? YES. Very much so. If I had the tool to do a study- walaahi I could easily figure this out and produce a reasonable reliable study that will debunk the entire world. I am also interested in HIV/AIDS a co-cousin of Homosexuality, I think this is my calling.

What evidence have you got to argue that some people are "born gay". Allah rebuked and destroyed qowm luud for engaging in homosexuality. Is this not enough for you. If Allah, the creator is telling us about this matter in a crystal clear manner why do some people insist on reading a research done by a non-believer who seeks to justify that which is haraam. Do these "Scientists", "Psychologists" and "intellectuals" have more knowledge about humans than the creator.

[Basra-]

wiyeer@loooool

relax macaanto-- no need from drama!


Yes, Alaah swt showed us in Quran that he destroyed an entire city of luut for homosexuality-but that proof does not state that homosexuality doesn't exist. in fact, the luut destruction is a proof that homosexuality existed in prehistoric times. That means --homosexuality is a fact of nature. Now, if u read my comments above, I was emphatically saying--homosexuality exists but do not act on it. The people of luut acted on it and were destroyed. The act is sin, and it is clearly said in the Quran, and that is why I was advising gays to remain celibate. But for u to sit there and pretend gays don't exist is a fallacy. When little boy children naturally act feminine, and little girls act like boys--u gotta at least think for yourself!