Mogadishu Government Will Not Recognize Jubbaland

[Turbulence]

I am not a fan of Ahmed Madoobe but accusing him of being involved in so called terrorist organizations is ridiculous when the last president of Mogadishu was the founder of Mogadishu courts which al shabab branched off from. Kenyans don't care about that neither does the international community. Especially considering that a good portion of the Mogadishu government is made up of former Alshabab members like Indhocadde.

[SiennaEarth]

This is hardly a news. Jland isnt somaliland...that is we dont want their recognition. Mooryaama is aruuratay waa laga acudubilaystaa.

You are from KENYA

[SiennaEarth]

J/Land will be governed in the interest of all its inhabitants.....this is not S.Hoose where the Govt is pursuing a tribal agenda.
As long as Hassan Sheikh et al continue with their divisive and destructive policies, we will simply ignore them.

You are from "Somaliand"

[FarhanYare]

^^^

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Tit

imam
kan in la xabiso maahane xalkale maleh

what do you mean Mowlanaa Sahal?

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

How can a Halaal Government recognize a Haram Project.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

How can a Halaal Government recognize a Haram Project.

[SultanOrder]

Somalis are so reer baadiye and have no understanding of governance. The President, the Prime Minister or his cabinet do not have the constitutional power to reject anything as "unconstitutional." That Power solely resides in the constitutional courts, which have yet to be formed. Therefore, the case is still up for debate and can only be resolved through the courts, until then, there is no constitutional reason for Shirka Kismaayo to stop.

When the courts are formed, and they rule in favor of Shirka Kismaayo, the government has no choice but to recognize it.

[grandpakhalif]

Shirka Jubbaland dastuurka ba ka horjeedo, dastuurka bal fiiri, jubbalandh dooni mayno waxa weeyey jabhad kenya la racday markaas bay rabban in ay dowlada federaalka ka ag marayn siyaasiinta jubbooyinka iyo gedo, dowlaada federaalka ee somaliya wa hoogaanka mamuul samaynta, not IGAD not KENYA ! OK!!!!!!!!!!

[original dervish]

J/LAND

[sahal80]

imam al warshikhi, i was just jocking.

Its unconstitutional

The key for this process is the govt.

People need to understand the background of the somali federalism .

The first somali group who called for this solution were the southwestreners reer baydhabo and their historical leader adan zobe i think he has been an speaker some day i read some interviews with him in the egyptian media in the net he was then cairo in the 90s partaking in some conference he said he was calling this choice since 91 because of them having different culture and dialect

The second group were puntlanders since 2004 and ethiopia backed this agenda in sodere

puntland and bay&bakool have one clan population. Some rahanwen have started nowadays adopting more than bay&bakool agenda and back to the slogan of hizpia D&M of the 50s wich was south of hiraan but xamar.

The rest of the groups who call for faderalism are newly discovered political groups they were even againist the adoption of federalism before 2008

Now let us back to the real two federalist groups, in the transisional era the minirtery of federal and constitutional affairs was belonging to baydhabo or puntland(goldogob) there is a reason why because it was them who were pushing ahead for this agenda like the constitution says; 'the ministery of the federal and constitutional affaires to implement such affairs' thus it was the ministery who was imlimenting the road map, the constitution(ex federal chart its also includes the 1960 constitution and any thing is missing in this one will be governed by that one according to the new provisional constitution )

Now the federal affaires have been put under the interior ministery so because the minister is different they dont want to work with him.

the minister has this power; 'the federal member state is constitutionally subject to the authority of the govt of the federal republic of somalia'

Also the parliament has this power ' the parliament is tasked with selecting the ultimate.... And boundaries of the federal member state within the federal republic of somali'

Because of his internal federal power, the minister has went there by himself and asked them to hold the conference because there is now the national stabilization plan called 'laying the foundations for functional and effective local governance structur' wich works for 6 months in each administration due to al shabaabs control of these areas and to provide the citizens a local governors till then the paper has been sent to IGAD and international community. Understanding this, they asked the govt to make the things quicker as it can and only two countries are violating it the govt waits the london conference wich will finally stop them by cutting their military funds if they didnt stop.

Anyways why asking now a recognition keep going on and never look back, have your town the govt is only heading jubada shexe with its governor and doesnt care about jubada hooses conflicts

[original dervish]

There is no conflict in J Hoose.....the people have resolved to build a federal state according to the constitution.
Do you really think they will allow the Govt to do in J/Land what they`ve been doing in S Hoose?

s/l p/l and Galmudug don`t take orders from Mogadishu....why should J/Land?

[sahal80]

OD

even if there is no conflicts no one cares i the presidents security advisor has told him to adopt a hands off policy towards kismayo and he adopted it but NO recognition.

as was just reading qabdiid being in xamar, seems he is in a weak position as there is a war in GK

This guy is two weak, you dont know galmudug politics, just one mistake happens and they would change their leader
Govt just needs to use money in there.

[grandpakhalif]

sahal can you provide us more updates on how the government is going to subdue thsi illegal kenyan backed shirka kismayo? many clans wish to support the govt but it seems the govt is not helpin them enough??

[sahal80]

sahal can you provide us more updates on how the government is going to subdue thsi illegal kenyan backed shirka kismayo? many clans wish to support the govt but it seems the govt is not helpin them enough??

the govt is out and are not attending to make interim admin for lower juba but no recognition for any of them though they like sh madoobe to win bc the other group azania-puntland has foreing contacts and contracts while madoobe has yet to establish foreing relationships beyond kenya and has jihadist file, he is religious using the tribal card he may even contact with the govt if he didnt get elected or stop the conference if the things are not to his way.

Gandhi and ina sharmake have their own ergo in some place and madoobe has his in another place both want to nominate the president from their places!