Khalid Ali always meddling in WALO affairs!!

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Titanium is speaking truth.....Habar Jeclo NEVER again will run Somaliland.
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Perfect_Order wrote:Khalid Ali has a right to comment on Wanlawayne affairs, pick sides, analyze and criticize policies. At the end of the day he is just entertaining himself. Should he bar himself from knowing the rest of the world's politics as well? Besides there is nothing as entertaining as Wanlawayne politics, it has no real guidelines and unpredictable trajectory. He is versed in SL politics, Kenyan, African, European, ME, Asian etc.

Khalid Ali loves politics.
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Titanium wrote:Rightwing,

Of course he is. Even the most hardcore Somalilanders will tell you that. Even before his election win, people were bringing it up. It's an open secret. He has a soft spot for the union. Of course he won't campaign on it or he will get a bullet to the head. I am surprised you are surprised.
Sxb, do you know Somalis are known to be father of sinister and conspiracy theories?? Wax kasta shaki bay geshaan without proves or sources.
For example if accident occurs and there are casualties waxay ku odhanayaan koley hebel baa ka danbeeyey.
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ASMtimacade wrote:Titanium is speaking truth.....Habar Jeclo NEVER again will run Somaliland.

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Rightwing,

Just look at his mannerisms and the way he talks about Somaliland recognition. "It's not up to me but it's up to the people of Somaliland. And the people want to be independent". He always emphasizes that word "people". He's also very passive when it comes to Somaliland vs Somalia. He is not vocal. He only raises his voice about Somaliland's sovereignty when the people at home criticize him. He's never vocal at first. He has to be pressured to act. He was the architect of the power-sharing agreement not too long ago in 1991. You just don't change your opinion overnight. He had to go with the crowd, the people wanted independence and he had to listen.
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Titanium wrote:Rightwing,

Just look at his mannerisms and the way he talks about Somaliland recognition. "It's not up to me but it's up to the people of Somaliland. And the people want to be independent". He always emphasizes that word "people". He's also very passive when it comes to Somaliland vs Somalia. He is not vocal. He only raises his voice about Somaliland's sovereignty when the people at home criticize him. He's never vocal at first. He has to be pressured to act. He was the architect of the power-sharing agreement not too long ago in 1991. You just don't change your opinion overnight. He had to go with the crowd, the people wanted independence and he had to listen.
i concur, cigaal was no different aswell
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SL administration is between a rock and a hard place. NO government no matter how much they say ever want to be in a state of limbo, that is between recognition and autonomy. The government is "adeegsada bulshada dadwaynaha" whether that is amniga, dhaqaalaha, xasiloonida, danaha dadka arimaha dibada, dhismaha wadanka, cafimaadka, waxbarashada, iwm. That is their mandate, and what is expected from them. The government to do that needs a lot of things, and those things can become easier as a fully recognized government. Now imagine your people are saying we want to be independent but they also expect you to fulfill all your roles, and the world says another thing. What are you to do? Now throw democracy into the mix, you know that as the sitting government you are compared to recongized governments, your opposition does, your people do, and so if you don't fullfill your duties you are likely thrown out of office.

As long as the people demand recognition the government has to advocate for it publicly, but privately they still have to make practical decisions to fulfill their mandate. So when Silaanyo says he will not participate in the London conference, that is because of domestic politics, but in Ankara he makes a deal with DFS to share aid in the name of Somalia, because it is the practical thing to do.
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S/l position will become increasingly unsustainable.
The recent decision to hand control of Somali`s airspace to the federal Govt is just the beginning.
Next will be Somali`s maritime waters and continental shelf.
How long do you think they can keep their heads in the sand?
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Rightwing Somaliland stance on the whole Somalia affairs is very neutral the top Kulmiye government knows this. They would love to support hassan on this but they cannot and wants to see how it unfolds and ofcouse how the dialogue goes in 2 months time.

Rightwing stop being so emotional , Walanweyns are not going to eat you they are like children who were told to play in a sealed playground with African union troops as their guardians they are just playing it out. They have clan alligences sub clan alligences and they play a zerosum game. They have no conflict resolution plan, Its very interesting to watch and i like it as PO pointed out i like their politics even though its not real politics its more a zoo. But still its very entertaining.

Were you expecting a walanweyn President to support Somaliland independence Rightwing stop being so naive my friend, no walanweyn President will support Somaliland unless he gets something in return hassan is the latter one.But there are walanweyn Presidents who consider Somaliland an enemy state they are there 2 , hassan is harmless with his i want union and what not. He is just dancing to the tunes he has not the resources the manpower to enforce this. But he wants a union now that is not a real problem for us I am more interested how hassan deals with kenyan proxies and Uhurro Kenyatta and the TPLF neutral stance although and igad meddling in his affairs the TPLF wants to see a jubbaland but they do not want to openly support it. The Kenyans are in full support now with the presidents it will be very interesting. See rightwing walanweyns are not like us , in our political culture physiological behavior. The walanweyns do not tell the truth they would claim they are true nationalists when they are hard core tribalists. Walanweyns do not tell the truth of what they really believe and where the stand some would hide behind the Kenyans and Ethiopians and with indha adayga claim they are the most Somali patriots ever. In the Somaliland culture its more honest there is a saying beeni maxay tari booramaan ka yimi eh. Walanweynians will never come clean nor will they ever reconcile as people because they believe everything is fine the civil war is over we have a government dawladanyada wala aqoonsaday hada dawlad banu nahay :lol: . While huge segments of the country is using neighboring countries to achieve tribal objectives only in Somalia and divide the country. Even in Somaliland the dhulbahante would say very honest war isaaqow idinku isaaq baad tihin kufurti bilaahi anana daarood banu nahay waxba isku darsan kari mayno see its part of the SL culture to be politically honest. But walanweyns they would go on and on about the constitution indicates this and that, and federal states cannot be formed because point hebel says this and point hebel says a committee needs to be formed. May mahiiga uun u yeedhan mahiga ba dastuurka qoray isaga garta u qaadi. But they cannot they use the constitution as an excuse to politically sabotage each other

Back to me and what i believe i believe in a strong united Somaliland recognized by the international community with a thriving economy. I do not support Somaliland to be under any other country. i do believe though Somalia stability and unity is also in the interests of our long term interests. But for now we have to stay and watch from the sidelines. I also believe Mogadishu and Somalia is good for our enterprises and our companies to invests in any parts of the horn. It will only be good for us.

Now where do we stand with hassan we will smile with him we will drink qaxwe with him we will talk about the future we will try to agree that the best way for him and for us is to go separate officially as friends not as foes he would raise his eye brows and reject that. He would say than union is better lets stay united we will give you this and that but lets maintain the union. Somaliland will rejects and he rejects No problem we are happy with that when that happens we will jointly address the international community that the talks failed officially and call for international mediation it can be a long process but we have nothing to lose we will already receive trainings for our troops we can still militarize our troops, and we still receive aid. We have hired international lobbyist for our cause.And we have the Somaliland development corporations in tact to bypass the litigation that withholds SL from doing trade with sovereign nations. We have already succeeded we raised the Somalia and Somaliland case to an international level and it will have that status in the near future to. It can be a long process probably few years time. But we will still have our sovereignty something no one can take away from us. And some how its good that Somalia rejected Somalilands independence because we have been nearly fight for 32 years for our right place in the world , 10 years armed struggle against Somalia. And 22 years for recognition and our right place in the world It showed that the people of Somaliland are committed united in their nationalistic goals it will be part of our history as people. few decades from now we will say ma xasuusateen berigi citraafka u dagalamayney. There for everything is really good and Rightwing u should not read into much of what hasan our friend in mogadishu says about Somaliland because he just wants to say the right things so that his people have hope he does this because he wants to create hope for his people. See walanweyns have no hope with out Somaliland it will be a catastrophe if he agrees with Sl independence. But slowley by slowely they are accepting it takes time for acceptance. So give the man a break willl yaa.
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Professor Khalid you should write a book about your observations of the Walawayn mind, politics, culture, and society. Somehow I think you respect them and admire them even if you do not love them. :lol:
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:lol: @ khalid

somaliland politics is getting boring isnt it, the wanlaweyns have so much going on.
its like the UAE foot ball league against the premier league.
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The republic the walanweyns are the most cajiib Somali people they will say one thing but in reality they dont mean it. They also pursue their separate foreign sub clan policy.The walanweyn mind is a very interesting mind, they will call you a traitor Khaayin al wadan. But few months later u will see the same person cheering entertaining anti Somali idea's And still has the guts to call you a traitor.Walanweynians mix Islamic beliefs with modern beliefs with Tribal beliefs very dangerous combo :lol: They are good people i like them but they dont know what is good for them. :lol:


Waryaa Guray

Somaliland politics is boring the other day i caught my self i read more Walanweyn websites than Somaliland websites :lol:

Walanweyns have so many things going on for them

The Jubbaland Kenya IGAD drama
The President being accused to be part of a religious party
The President being accused to be a member of the a tribal diaspora group.
Large communities of Somalia protesting against the President in the west and calling him a clan president.
Clan organizations like Sahal writing press conferences in opposition of the President.

What do we have in Somaliland going on interesting to watch
Only the 18 may celebrations which i like
The rest seems to be very calm other than faisal meeting with the Somalia president and 24 hours later insulting the Walanweyns :lol:
The Kulmiye government has killed all SL opposition :lol:
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Dont worry guys. North Waqooyian politics will be hot soon. The Kastuumonites are getting ready to ambush the isaaq forces. Or Faysal Waraabe facing Jail when he arrives in Hargeisa(if iam not wrong, he didnt arrive yet). One of the two :lol:
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hutuking you are really funny.
the kastumites cannot do anything at all.
there best bet is to launch new attacks so that they get on the international news,
but they are out of money and cannot afford fuel and ammunition.

if we attack them they will try to look like darfur and tell the world look we are bieng massacred we need help.
:lol: :lol:

nah its best that they stay in their 2 enclaves taleex and buhoodle, and calacal from a distance and make angry faces.
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Waqooyi politics is boring, not interesting at all to be honest, aside from the dhulos and SL clashes moyaanee wax kale interesting ka dhaco majidho.
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