why somaliland will always be part of ethiopia

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

As we speak now Berbera is ethiopian city.

[gurey25]

gurey, if you look past eaglehawk's, his arguments are valid. the ethiopians could have secured a port in south Somalia long ago if they so desired but they knew that southerners are an unruly people and would not accept ethiopian hegomony, whilst somaliland is indifferent/neutral to ethiopian exploitation. take a look at their favourite port? berbera, its clear that slers are the most pro-ethiopia amongst all somalis despite the bravado against them which is displayed in the media.
http://www.ethiopianreview.com/forum/vi ... =2&t=53269

recently ethiopia said we will defend somaliland against somalia aggression. is this not a sign of friendship? I wouldn't be surprised if ethiopia economically annexes somaliland in the next decade, all the facts lead to Addis.

eaglehawkism is very accurate idealogy.

why is somaliland more pro-ethiopia than all the rest of somali politicians?
didnt all the warlords go to addis abbab? didnt all the warlords and your "presidents" go to addis abbaba?
didnt abdullahi yususf invite xabasha to settle tribal scores for him?
wasnt abdullahi yusufs prime minister geedi handpicked and installed by ethiopia?
werent most of the "parlaiment" vetted and picked by ethiopia?

are the ethiopians still in the south with the full support of the people to fight alshabab?

so somaliland having diplomatic relationship with its nieghbour and trade partner is seen as pro-ethiopia???

where is your logic.

and what do you mean by exploitation? do you believe the fadhi kudirir bullshit that ethiopia uses berbera for free?
somalilander fought 10 years to free themselves from tyranny so you are saying that they wont resist ethiopia??

if you really believe that then you are delsuional your clan hatred is getting to your head..

now does ethiopia covet berbera? ofcourse can they get it? no
why ?
international borders? countries are not allowed to conquer other countries anymore its not the 19th century.
Can they invade and occupy somaliland and control berbera?
yes ofcourse.

but they need an excuse. in the south the ICU and islamic state gave them the excuse and the green light from the US.
they have no opening for somaliland.
There is law and order and a state, not a bunch of warlords .

Ethiopia benefits from the relationship so do we.

[GeoSeven]

Some Somali military units advanced from the eastern borders of Ethiopia into Godey and Qabri Dahar in 77. If Somalia was to invade with the intention of liberating only the Somali territories, the Ethiopian highlands and their defensive benefits would not be of relevance in the equation. The only problem would be Dire Dawa because its nestled behind the Marda Pass passed Jigjiga into the highlands.

If Somaliland had a soft spot for the Ethiopian's, they wouldn't have deported them en masse like cockroaches last year.

[Typhoon]

Zak Abdi · Coventry University

From Hassan; the Ethiopia's policy towards Somaliland is one of mutual interest. So here comes the hour, here comes the moment of reality; the reality is Ethiopia has finally, came to terms with whom it can trust.

The answer: Somaliland is the only stable, based on democratic fundamentals and there worth enters agreements and treaties with. Hence Somalilanders welcome this new move.

Mustafa Abdilahi · The College of Haringey, Enfield and North East London

Great diplomatic language which illustrates the deep friendship between the two neighbour countries. Thank you Mr Hailemeriam.

grandpa if you follow the teaching of herr eaglehawk you would know that ethiopia never said:they would defend somaliland
a idoor came up with that and unintentional revealing how insecure somalilanders feel about the changes in somalia
somalida don`t check things, the speech was in amharic

the idoor do this type stuff on regular basis, they mislabel things like "bilateral meeting between somaliland united states," "somaliland given observer status in Nato"
"somali president give a speech where he said he is ready to recognize somaliland"
"ethiopia and somaliland against Eritrea and somalia"

"somaliland contributes to the haiti reconstruction"


granpakahlif you are dealing with people who have political tantrums, Ethiopia would never make such an erratic statement
lets say for the sake of argument he said Ethiopia will defend somaliland, doesn`t that prove my point that somaliland in ethiopian sphere of influence and ethiopians few it as on of their childeren that needs to be protected...s weather the local natives like it or not

[Khalid Ali]

Ethiopia is overrated the way you view it is not the way you should view it Ethiopia is a multi Ethnic country they are different nationalities. To the South of Somaliland there is the Somali region further on there is the Oromo kilil further north west there is the Afar and Amhara Kilils. The current government the TPLF reorganized Ethiopia domestically it created new political nationalities under the form of federalism. Ethiopia and Somaliland will have normal relations Ethiopia doesnt need anything we need but their huge market is good for Somaliland in a Business sense.We would take advantage of that economically will only prosper.

If we return to Somalia , Somalia needs ethiopia it needs Ethiopian troops in Somalia it used Ethiopian troops to Kill their own people today Ethiopias IGAD word is more valued than what the Somali government wants. The Walanweyns forget that IGAD is Ethiopia, bunch gullible Kids daily talking about IGAD did this IGAD did that the Ethiopians have Somalia crippled and Somalia is on its knees because of the Xabashis , and Somalia has world recognition and international legitimacy but its still cannot fight off Ethiopian influence diplomatically. The Walanweyns border both the xabashis and the Kikiyus , the Xabashis have invaded Somalia twice and the Kikiyus hold the rest other bantus are coming to. Somaliland will maintain good relations with Ethiopia or any other country anything that benefits Somaliland.And there is nothing the daaroods can do about it

[hargaysaay]

i love how our southern brothers use the ethiopian card against somaliland, first of all it was not somaliland that brought ethiopian tanks in to your capital. fact,
secondly i believe i am correct when i say majority of those who participated in 1977 were northerns ( your contaminated mind is reading isaaq bit its not i said northerns) thus the 26th division of SNA in hargeysa was the most powerful army division.

[grandpakhalif]

gurey, ethiopia is in somalia at the behest of the somali government, that is what legitimizes their presence today, even still they haven't ventured from their defacto borders only assisting somali forces in a few border towns, that hardly constitutes as occupation. Even today, ethiopia wishes to withdraw from somalia as it has proven too cost consuming, as they have been denied AMISOM support. Many times they threatened to pullout, this shows you have little to no understanding of southern somalia geopolitics and the foreign debacle their. ethiopia is the least enthusiastic force.

even at the height of the ethiopian invasion we have not seen ethiopia express the same amount of economic interest as they do in Berbera, we all know the Riyaale/UDUB admin gave Ethiopia unprecedented access to Berbera for a very small fee. It was a bargain for them and the deceased Meles knew this, thats why he constantly summoned SL officials to ethiopia for "bilateral talks" which were merely economic chokeholds on a Somalia sovereign port.

The siilaanyo government will be no different, corrupt officials within that admin will not change the status quo despite siilaanyo's farce outwardly opposition to ethiopia. behind the scenes business is going as usual......

[Typhoon]

the diffrence bewteen southern politicans and reer wagooyi is that reer wagooyo 100 percet subservintes

koonfur politicians are gangsta they use ethiopia and as soon as they get what they want, they shout back to ethiopia " habarta siiilkeed, aydi ku dhashay was amxaar"

name one idoor that went against ethiopia even as small as "you gave me the wrong food order, i order pasta not canjeera"

[gurey25]

gurey, ethiopia is in somalia at the behest of the somali government, that is what legitimizes their presence today, even still they haven't ventured from their defacto borders only assisting somali forces in a few border towns, that hardly constitutes as occupation. Even today, ethiopia wishes to withdraw from somalia as it has proven too cost consuming, as they have been denied AMISOM support. Many times they threatened to pullout, this shows you have little to no understanding of southern somalia geopolitics and the foreign debacle their. ethiopia is the least enthusiastic force.

i am aware of that , i meant all the other times ethiopia has crossed the border,
its been doing it since 96 figting ithihad al islam in luq.

even at the height of the ethiopian invasion we have not seen ethiopia express the same amount of economic interest as they do in Berbera, we all know the Riyaale/UDUB admin gave Ethiopia unprecedented access to Berbera for a very small fee. It was a bargain for them and the deceased Meles knew this, thats why he constantly summoned SL officials to ethiopia for "bilateral talks" which were merely economic chokeholds on a Somalia sovereign port.

this is where your ignorance comes in, the sum they pay for access is not that smaller than djibouti.
why should we not give access? the more goods go through berbera the more money we make.
we are constrained by the bad road infrastructure only 10% of Ethiopias trade goes through Berbera.

[Khalid Ali]

Walanweyns have weird logic they tell you they hate xabashis but they welcome them in their homes and use them to screw the enemy tribe wa umad wareersan oo ilaahay ka go'oay. They will value the words of the TPLF officials more than their own leaders in Mogadishu. I am really glad we have nothing to do with these confused creatures. I believe koonfurans want to eat enjeeras with the Xabashis they just dont know how to reach them These people switch sides they dont know who their friend is who their enemy is their leaders first fight against xabashi than join them to fight against another enemy or entity war wa umad wareertey meel ay u socdaan garan mayaan.

[Magnusomalius]

Contagious outcast gibberish

[Typhoon]

i love how our southern brothers use the ethiopian card against somaliland, first of all it was not somaliland that brought ethiopian tanks in to your capital. fact,
secondly i believe i am correct when i say majority of those who participated in 1977 were northerns ( your contaminated mind is reading isaaq bit its not i said northerns) thus the 26th division of SNA in hargeysa was the most powerful army division.

50 percent of the somali SNA were ogaden and hawiye

while 80 percent of heesahi dagaalki 77 were made by isaaq, idoorku heesaha bay wadani ku yahin

cidagale fought bravely, beesha cidagale are proud people they even had a jamhad that fought the snm

cidagale sacrificed blood and treasure somalinimo taas wax la qaran karo maha

[hargaysaay]

we also provided snm with the notorious koodbuur division that finally captured hargeysa

[Typhoon]

gurey, ethiopia is in somalia at the behest of the somali government, that is what legitimizes their presence today, even still they haven't ventured from their defacto borders only assisting somali forces in a few border towns, that hardly constitutes as occupation. Even today, ethiopia wishes to withdraw from somalia as it has proven too cost consuming, as they have been denied AMISOM support. Many times they threatened to pullout, this shows you have little to no understanding of southern somalia geopolitics and the foreign debacle their. ethiopia is the least enthusiastic force.

even at the height of the ethiopian invasion we have not seen ethiopia express the same amount of economic interest as they do in Berbera, we all know the Riyaale/UDUB admin gave Ethiopia unprecedented access to Berbera for a very small fee. It was a bargain for them and the deceased Meles knew this, thats why he constantly summoned SL officials to ethiopia for "bilateral talks" which were merely economic chokeholds on a Somalia sovereign port.

The siilaanyo government will be no different, corrupt officials within that admin will not change the status quo despite siilaanyo's farce outwardly opposition to ethiopia. behind the scenes business is going as usual......

bellissimo !
bal aqligaas firiya, la socda granpa wa ka yaryahay gurey25

[Khalid Ali]

the diffrence bewteen southern politicans and reer wagooyi is that reer wagooyo 100 percet subservintes

koonfur politicians are gangsta they use ethiopia and as soon as they get what they want, they shout back to ethiopia " habarta siiilkeed, aydi ku dhashay was amxaar"

name one idoor that went against ethiopia even as small as "you gave me the wrong food order, i order pasta not canjeera"

Tell us first what does xabashi have what we need for us to tell them to fuck off , you are used by the xabashis they used to arm your warlords against each other and play them against each other. And than they discard them like the piece of trash they are.They invaded your country and carpet bomb it made ur people flee to Kenya and ur leaders still kiss their ring. Atleast iidoor irhaabists went to the south and taught yaal leadership and fought the xabashis inside your country. Even when we went to the sool region and kicked out majeerteen from the sool region. The Majeerteen President and cabdilahi yusuf and Meles zenawi were collaborating the xabashis didnt went against our interest and didn't side with the Majeerteen but they stayed neutral. So why should we tell the TPLF to fock off they are just keeping you weak thats not our problem aslong as Kenya and Ethiopia are there they keep you weak.