Prof Ahmed Ismail Samatar Arrived Berbera ''Ciida Dhunkaday'

[Talo alle udaa]

Old men who go to Somalia and say they are the elders of Somaliland and want to approve a constitution that goes against our aspirations and claims our land deserve to be jailed and to be castrated. We are very confident in our leadership our country and the country is in full swing that they want to remain an independent republic till Yawmal qiyaama. There is no weak foundation , do you think a weak foundation of ideology can last for 22 years makes no sense. But we cherish our statehood and we will protect. Against any one. So an old man going to xamar we dont care he can go but he cannot go there and approve a constitution that is against our will there is clear fundamental difference. There is no problem with Somalia , i have family members there who do business in Somalia. And many Somalilanders wish to cooperate and invest money all over the horn not just Somalia.

Sxb no one will deny the achievements made by the Isaaq/Gadabursi in S/land. The peace in that region speaks for itself.

But statements like "until Yawmal qiyaama" sound like what a mad men would say. Nations are born and destroyed, history speaks for itself. What you should support is the development & prosperity of your people whether that comes in the form of being an Independent republic or a region within Somalia.

[BigBreak]

^ yes that is right, development is as important as intl recognition, until we become an official nation we should do what taiwan does as another non recognised state

[DR-YALAXOOW]

prof abdi samatar is still pro united Somalia.. i think he wants northern somalia aka somaliland to be part of federal republic of Somalia..

[Khalid Ali]

prof abdi samatar is still pro united Somalia.. i think he wants northern somalia aka somaliland to be part of federal republic of Somalia..

Ahmed samatar and abdi samatar are 2 different persons

[Titanium]

I like Abdi better. I would support him wallahi billahi if he was running for presidency. He is a real nationalist. He isn't a fraud like his brother who was expecting the red carpet when he first arrived in Muqdisho. Yusuf Garad and Prof. Ahmed are both clowns.

Somaliland can keep that opportunist trash. However, Somaliland is only using him out of spite towards Somalia. He wouldn't get any attention in Hargeisa if he wasn't given the cold shoulder in Xamar. Let's hope Somaliland is only thinking of capitalizing on this situation and nothing else. No one becomes a separatist overnight.

[Caashaqa]

^ yes that is right, development is as important as intl recognition, until we become an official nation we should do what taiwan does as another non recognised state

You can't compare Taiwan and Somaliland Taiwan is part of many international organizations and the super power of our time the United States supports it against the communist

[Khalid Ali]

^ yes that is right, development is as important as intl recognition, until we become an official nation we should do what taiwan does as another non recognised state

You can't compare Taiwan and Somaliland Taiwan is part of many international organizations and the super power of our time the United States supports it against the communist

Taiwain is recognized by only small and meaningless countries and China controls Taiwan even the US unofficial support means little , Taiwan cannot declare independent state, they have an entire Empire that will crush them if they do. Somaliland has a much better case to full statehood, there are aren't many countries against Somaliland independence the African union consider its statehood one that will not open Pandora box in the African continent. But actually a very unique case the europeans are very much neutral The same as the Americans. While Taiwan has an strong communist state that doesn't want to hear Taiwan to break away. There is nothing major that stops Somaliland and i am sure It will get recognized.

[Caashaqa]

^ yes that is right, development is as important as intl recognition, until we become an official nation we should do what taiwan does as another non recognised state

You can't compare Taiwan and Somaliland Taiwan is part of many international organizations and the super power of our time the United States supports it against the communist

Taiwain is recognized by only small and meaningless countries and China controls Taiwan if the US unofficial support means little , Taiwan cannot declare independent state, they have an entire Empire that will crush them if they do. Somaliland has a much better case to full statehood, there are aren't many countries against Somaliland independence the African union consider its statehood one that will not open Pandora box in the African continent. But actually a very unique case the europeans are very much neutral The same as the Americans. While Taiwan has an strong communist state that doesn't want to hear Taiwan to break away. There is nothing major that stops Somaliland and i am sure It will get recognized.

How does China control Taiwan? Does it control its borders, air space, politics, etc Taiwan is a de facto state. America has said it supports a united Somalia so do the Arabs, and African countries if Somaliland is recognized then Biafra, Cabinda, Western Sahara, Southern Cameroon, Oromia, and etc have a chance it is basically opening pandora's box question if Somaliland wants to secede from a state it was part of in colonal times why do I hear that their holding clans hostage which don't want to be part of its secessionist state

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khalid ali

wouldnt it be a good thing if somaliland made contact with taiwan about recognizing each other and establishing diplomatic relations even if beijing will be furious and sunsequently have xamar as their proxy against us? for me we have nothing to lose and besides, fortune favours the brave right

caashaqa

somaliland like taiwan has full control over her land, sea and air and we have a foreign power (ethiopia) to protect us like taiwan does. also we and somalia were not together during colonial times plus all clans support independence i dont know where this bs came from

[Khalid Ali]

No we should stay away from that conflict let them sort our their own problems. We want good relations with china

[Meyle]

How does China control Taiwan? Does it control its borders, air space, politics, etc Taiwan is a de facto state. America has said it supports a united Somalia so do the Arabs, and African countries if Somaliland is recognized then Biafra, Cabinda, Western Sahara, Southern Cameroon, Oromia, and etc have a chance it is basically opening pandora's box question if Somaliland wants to secede from a state it was part of in colonal times why do I hear that their holding clans hostage which don't want to be part of its secessionist state

Somaliland was never part of Somalia during colonial times, so what the fuck are you talking about? Which clans are held hostage bal ii sheeg.

[Caashaqa]

khalid ali

wouldnt it be a good thing if somaliland made contact with taiwan about recognizing each other and establishing diplomatic relations even if beijing will be furious and sunsequently have xamar as their proxy against us? for me we have nothing to lose and besides, fortune favours the brave right

caashaqa

somaliland like taiwan has full control over her land, sea and air and we have a foreign power (ethiopia) to protect us like taiwan does. also we and somalia were not together during colonial times plus all clans support independence i dont know where this bs came from

You don't wanna mess with mighty China and doesn't Ethiopia also protect the Somali government in mogadishu its just playing Somalia and Somaliland against each other so there will never be a strong Somalia and what about these awadal state, khatumo state, and Maakhir

[Caashaqa]

How does China control Taiwan? Does it control its borders, air space, politics, etc Taiwan is a de facto state. America has said it supports a united Somalia so do the Arabs, and African countries if Somaliland is recognized then Biafra, Cabinda, Western Sahara, Southern Cameroon, Oromia, and etc have a chance it is basically opening pandora's box question if Somaliland wants to secede from a state it was part of in colonal times why do I hear that their holding clans hostage which don't want to be part of its secessionist state

Somaliland was never part of Somalia during colonial times, so what the fuck are you talking about? Which clans are held hostage bal ii sheeg.

Why are you swearing whats wrong with Somali people I swear y'all all are retards

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Saying maamulka waqooyi will be recognized is like saying Dajjal will become muslim.
Wax caqliga galaayo maahan. Besides Kurdistan, Masailand, Oromoland and tibetland make better chance.
A clan cannot become country.

[Khalid Ali]

^^^not just during the colonial time before colonial time we had nothing to do with Somalia we never shared the same country only between 1960 until 1991, never the same sultanate Biafra was a secessionist state of nigeria of the igbo ethnic group they were part of Nigeria and they wanted to secede. oromos case is different they were part of the Abyssinian Empire since the 19 century.They were also part of Abyssinia Wollo oromos even created their own state in Abyssinia and ruled Ethiopia. Oromos are Ethiopians . The sahraawi republic comes very close to the Somaliland case but not exactly the sahraawis were conquered and didnt join with morocco. but Morocco claimed that territory. Somaliland case is very similar to the Eritrean case