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Caashaqa wrote:

SANDIEGUY wrote:Answer the question bro, do you have a problem with the fact that islam allows slaves? if you do in fact have a problem with it, then i must say you are committing a major sin. you are saying that you know better than god! astaqfirullah! i hope this isn't the case

Let me get this straight so your religion allows slavery where you are holding another human being against their will, where you can sexually assault them, It allows conversion threw violence, it allows killing those who try to leave the religion sounds like a nice peaceful religion

it is how about you convert to it and save yourself from eternal torment

SANDIEGUY wrote:

Caashaqa wrote:

SANDIEGUY wrote:Answer the question bro, do you have a problem with the fact that islam allows slaves? if you do in fact have a problem with it, then i must say you are committing a major sin. you are saying that you know better than god! astaqfirullah! i hope this isn't the case

Let me get this straight so your religion allows slavery where you are holding another human being against their will, where you can sexually assault them, It allows conversion threw violence, it allows killing those who try to leave the religion sounds like a nice peaceful religion

it is how about you convert to it and save yourself from eternal torment

No thank you I don't do evil

Lol ok dont say i didn't warn you! anyway, are you a somali non believer?

Caashaqa, r u somaki

MenaceToSociety wrote:Caashaqa, r u somaki

I'm rer xamar so nope

How could you justify slavery

Caashaqa wrote:

MenaceToSociety wrote:Caashaqa, r u somaki

I'm rer xamar so nope

caashaqa a u a muslim?

Slavery is wrong and there is no excuse for slavery.. all religion should apoligize for allowing slavery to exist...All religion such as christinity and Islam who allow slavery should apologize what those relgion had allowed through out history...


its wrong to sell and buy humanbeings no matter what . and its wrong to allow to have sex(rape) whit slave females no matter what.. and all religios scriptures who allow such inhumane practise should be abroggated and thrown out.

I love how Islam safeguards the rights of the slave whiles they are in the unfortunate condition, but at the same time promotes anti-slavery and more importantly reintegrating slaves into society in a realistic and proper manner, all this 1400 years ago.

@adali..it also didn't prohibit the practice of slavery. We can have a healthy debate and it doesn't mean no one is trespassing on the religion. Islam allows one to seek knowledge. I am playing the Devon's advocate. While Dr Yala is straight up playing the devil himself

Shirib wrote:

MenaceToSociety wrote:

Shirib wrote:Slavery has existed for a very long time on earth. The slavery that was practiced in Arabia and other parts of the worlds is not the slavery that existed in the America's.

Dude, don't b making any excuse son, slavery was and is the same. Just try it on yourself, b a slave for a day and tell us the difference.

Are u kidding me? You obviously don't know the history of slavery. If you say that the slavery practiced in other parts of the world was the same as the slavery in America you're either just ignorant or as bad as the racist white historical revisionists. They weren't anything like the same.

Historically slavery was something like two tribes would fight and the captured would become slaves. They would then live among the other tribes, they'd even marry from them. They would actually be treated as a human instead of property. In the Ottoman Empire the generals, judges and bureaucrats were slaves of the King. These were powerful men btw. Are u saying this is the same slavery that happened in the America's?

I'm afraid you're ignorance is making you think that the slavery in America is the slavery that was practiced elsewhere and that's not the case.

You're talking rubbish. You want to compare Saudi slavery and American slavery? Can you then tell us what happened to the thousands of black slaves who wen to Arabia?

DR-YALAXOOW wrote:Slavery is wrong and there is no excuse for slavery.. all religion should apoligize for allowing slavery to exist...All religion such as christinity and Islam who allow slavery should apologize what those relgion had allowed through out history...


its wrong to sell and buy humanbeings no matter what . and its wrong to allow to have sex(rape) whit slave females no matter what.. and all religios scriptures who allow such inhumane practise should be abroggated and thrown out.

I can speak for Christianity and say this: that although slaves were always told to endure their slavery in patience, slave-traders and slave masters were always being warned.

1st Timothy 1:3-11

As I besought you to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that you might charge some that they teach no other doctrine,Neither give heed to myths and endless genealogies, which cause questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

Now the end of the commandment is love out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain talk; Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor the things they affirm. But we know that the law is good, if a man uses it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For fornicators, for homosexuals, for slave traders, for liars, for perjurers, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.

and then

Your gold and silver is rusted; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as if it were fire. You have heaped treasure together for the last days. Behold, the hire of the laborers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, cries: and the cries of them who have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of hosts.

Islamic slavery was completel different. It was nothing like the white slavery.

Zadhan Abl Umar reported: I came to Ibn 'Umar as he had granted freedom to a stave. He (the narrator further) said: He took hold of a wood or something like it from the earth and said: It (freedom of a slave) has not the reward evert equal to it, but the fact that I heard Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) say: He who slaps his slave or beats him, the expiation for it is that he should set him free.
~Muslim :: Book 15 : Hadith 4078

Mu'awiya b. Suwaid reported: I slapped a slave belonging to us and then fled away. I came back just before noon and offered prayer behind my father. He called him (the slave) and me and said: Do as he has done to you. He granted pardon. He (my father) then said: We belonged to the family of Muqarrin during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him. and had only one slave-girl and one of us slapped her. This news reached Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and he said: Set her free. They (the members of the family) said: There is no other servant except she. Thereupon he said: Then employ her and when you can afford to dispense with her services, then set her free.
~Muslim :: Book 15 : Hadith 4084

Al-Ma'rur b. Suwaid said: We went to Abu Dharr (Ghifari) in Rabadha and he had a mantle over him, and his slave had one like it. We said: Abu Dharr, had you joined them together, it would have been a complete garment. Thereupon he said: There was an altercation between me and one of the persons among my brothers. His mother was a non-Arab. I reproached him for his mother. He complained against me to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him). As I met Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) he said: Abu Dharr, you are a person who still has (in him the remnants) of the days (of Ignorance). Thereupon I said: Allah's Messenger, he who abuses (other) persons, they abuse (in return) his father and mother. He (the Holy Prophet) said: Abu Dharr, you are a person who still has (the remnants) of Ignorance in him They (your servants and slaves) are your brothers. Allah has put them in your care, so feed them with what you eat, clothe them with what you wear. and do not burden them beyond their capacities; but if you burden them (with an unbearable burden), then help them (by sharing their extra burden).

AmalJaber wrote:

DR-YALAXOOW wrote:Slavery is wrong and there is no excuse for slavery.. all religion should apoligize for allowing slavery to exist...All religion such as christinity and Islam who allow slavery should apologize what those relgion had allowed through out history...


its wrong to sell and buy humanbeings no matter what . and its wrong to allow to have sex(rape) whit slave females no matter what.. and all religios scriptures who allow such inhumane practise should be abroggated and thrown out.

I can speak for Christianity and say this: that although slaves were always told to endure their slavery in patience, slave-traders and slave masters were always being warned.

1st Timothy 1:3-11

As I besought you to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that you might charge some that they teach no other doctrine,Neither give heed to myths and endless genealogies, which cause questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

Now the end of the commandment is love out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain talk; Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor the things they affirm. But we know that the law is good, if a man uses it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For fornicators, for homosexuals, for slave traders, for liars, for perjurers, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.

and then

Your gold and silver is rusted; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as if it were fire. You have heaped treasure together for the last days. Behold, the hire of the laborers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, cries: and the cries of them who have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of hosts.

Kindly exit with your bs