Homeschooling. .

[MujahidAishah]

Amin faraxoos

Somali parents now DO send their kids to tuition Especially in London its the new fad

[Vivacious]

Even though homeschooling gives me more time to spend with my children, I would rather send them to a private school. I am not gonna deprive them of the outside world socialization. Homeschooling is a full-time job. Not every sister can do that specially if she is a working woman. And its very hard to keep up with all the house work while homeschooling your children, like the daily chores such as cleaning, cooking, running errands, doing laundry and so on But I will most definitely be their tutor at home helping them with their home works and revision.

[DisplacedDiraac]

You do your children a disfavor by homeschooling them. They will be out of touch with the outside world to an extent. Private schools are normal.

I disagree.. The child being stuck in a classroom all day is unnatural and out of touch with the real world.. If children are homeschooled the right way.. And the parents don't just follow a formal school type education by simply replicating it all at home.. But rather they got creative with it and they base learning around the child's interests and make their learning project based rather then doing the never ending boring pen/book crap they do in schools.. Obviously formal tuition should be kept up in core subjects.

I reckon they would achieve alot more at home then they would if they were educated in a school.. this is bcos according to a research done over here children only receive an average of 15mins individual attention time in schools per week and only 3 hours of the school day is actually spent in learning situations.

Home education isn't a full day like many think and it isn't all based at home.. I'm sure many communities have home school networks were homeschooled children and their parents get together weekly to chat and do activities such as art and craft etc.

[Tuushi]

Never.They need to learn life skills and how to interact with their fellow peers.


As a parent,u can always supplement where u can.Do as much as u can as the at home teacher without isolating them from society.

[GeoSeven]

You do your children a disfavor by homeschooling them. They will be out of touch with the outside world to an extent. Private schools are normal.

I disagree.. The child being stuck in a classroom all day is unnatural and out of touch with the real world.. If children are homeschooled the right way.. And the parents don't just follow a formal school type education by simply replicating it all at home.. But rather they got creative with it and they base learning around the child's interests and make their learning project based rather then doing the never ending boring pen/book crap they do in schools.. Obviously formal tuition should be kept up in core subjects.

I reckon they would achieve alot more at home then they would if they were educated in a school.. this is bcos according to a research done over here children only receive an average of 15mins individual attention time in schools per week and only 3 hours of the school day is actually spent in learning situations.

Home education isn't a full day like many think and it isn't all based at home.. I'm sure many communities have home school networks were homeschooled children and their parents get together weekly to chat and do activities such as art and craft etc.

You know what, putting it that way...it depends on how one goes about homeschooling their kids. I mean, if there's networks were homeschooling communities interact and organize a social life for their children, I suppose they wouldn't entirely miss out on outside life. It really depends on how you structure it out. You don't want your child becoming socially awkward or a seclude.

[GeoSeven]

Also, whoever home schools their kids...just be sure to take them to self defense classes. If they won't learn to steel themselves and throw a punch at school, at least prepare them with skills needed to overcome a violent situation sometime in the future

[SultanOrder]

For those going on about kids not getting socializing, did you guys not socialize after school? Seriously, were you guys locked up at home after school? Besides, what better way to learn to socialize then the masters of socialization, the parents who have years of experience in becoming good communicators, polite, kind, and having good work ethic. Unless, you think that you are a hinderance to your own kids, that you do not have the proper socializing skills.

I remember back middle and high school, most people fell into cliques, or a small group of friends, so what great socializing skills did they learn other than which group you fall into?

Also, do you know that schooling is a very new concept not more than houndred and 50 years old in most western countries. It was created by the Prussians as a way to raise obedient, and disciplined soldiers, that had no thought of their own. It was implemented in places like the USA by rich capitalists to create a labor force that had the most basic skills, and not too much more. Most students as the centuries have gone by have actually gone down in terms of what their comprehension, reading, math levels were every decade. Schools are producing dumber and dumber students, this is the real reason why homeschooling has become so big. Also, a lot of universities especially here in the US like homeschool kids because they tend to be more rounded, curious students, that have a desire to learn. I have never seen one study that has said that homeschool kids lack in the social department in comparison to regular kids.

[GeoSeven]

PO put a dent on my views about home schooling. Now that you mention it, never liked school much. Always felt like a sheep in a herd under intellectual slavery where life and everything about it was dictated at school.

Pros and cons for everything and with home schooling and I suppose as long as a parent is certified to teach and careful that a child's development is unhindered...might actually be a good thing.

[SultanOrder]

I can honestly say that elementary is a waste of time, I could of learned all of what I learned in less than a year. I leanred how to read, write (terrible handwriting), simple math addition/subtraction basic multiplication, a little geography, a little history. I'd throw middle school into the mix aswell.

Has anybody heard of John Taylor Gatto? This guy was a award winning teacher in New york for 20 something years, and he gave up. He did some research and he found out that the people who put the schooling into place here in america, I'm talking about mandatory school were wealthy captains of industry like JP Morgan, Carnagie, Vanderbilt, etc for one sole purpose. To stymie independence, create a workforce that can do the most basic tasks, to listen to authority and be easier to control etc. He has some great books and lectures out there.

I have to say though, homeschooling is a luxury, just like private school is. The govt will pay around 5k per student to go to school, but they won't pay the parents any money to homeschool. So even if you want to do it, it isn't easy.

[Methylamine]

If I had the time and money, I would definitely homeschool my children. Homeschooling them means I'm in control of what they learn and I can filter out some of the crazy crap they teach in elementary school nowadays like practicing safe sex, expressing homosexuality etc. Kids can easily make friends and develop a social life through sports teams, clubs, even taking your kid to the park will foster positive social behaviour. Taking kids to public schools means that they will be exposed to people from all different backgrounds and its easy for kids to fall into the wrong crowd - which has happened to a lot of the Somalis that I grew up with.

If I can't homeschool my kids, I'd definitely send them to a private school insha'Allah

[DisplacedDiraac]

I can honestly say that elementary is a waste of time, I could of learned all of what I learned in less than a year. I leanred how to read, write (terrible handwriting), simple math addition/subtraction basic multiplication, a little geography, a little history. I'd throw middle school into the mix aswell.

Has anybody heard of John Taylor Gatto? This guy was a award winning teacher in New york for 20 something years, and he gave up. He did some research and he found out that the people who put the schooling into place here in america, I'm talking about mandatory school were wealthy captains of industry like JP Morgan, Carnagie, Vanderbilt, etc for one sole purpose. To stymie independence, create a workforce that can do the most basic tasks, to listen to authority and be easier to control etc. He has some great books and lectures out there.

I have to say though, homeschooling is a luxury, just like private school is. The govt will pay around 5k per student to go to school, but they won't pay the parents any money to homeschool. So even if you want to do it, it isn't easy.

That's pretty interesting @ PO..
Have you read any of John TG's books? Could you recommend one?

I believe the Canadian government pays parents to homeschool children *not sure if they still do it*.. There's no government funding for homeschooling over here also.. So parents have to pay for everything which is definitely something one should consider.. although the cost is possibly not much more than providing school lunches, uniforms, transport fares, various trips etc of a child in school..

Plus Schools are tailored for females.. Which explains why they out-perform boys.. boys are typically more active and competitive and schools suppresses all of that.

I might be sad for saying this.. But one of the reasons why I pursued further education was so I could educate my future children.. InshaAllah

[SultanOrder]

http://johntaylorgatto.com/underground/index.htm

Here is his website. The book that is really good is "The underground history of education in America".The nice thing is that he puts it online, so you can read chapter by chapter. He really talks about dumbing down of children, the phenomonon of adolescece, teens, extending childhood, the dynamics of schooling, of the classroom, how it is not structured to learning, but enforcing a certain mentality in a child whether he is an "A" student "C" or "F". He looks at the history that he researched, gives his sources etc. Pretty eye-opening.

Westy, honestly, my ideal family is me working the full-time, my wife who either is stay at home or works part-time, and homeschools my kids. Every other month we can go on tours out of town, visiting different landmarks, living the history and putting a face to what they are learning. Also, I can imagine them in their early teens enrolling in college courses just for fun, sitting in lectures, independent kids who pursue their interests and have the confidence to suceed in anything.

[BlackVelvet]

How exactly would you go about home schooling your kids West? Would you follow the national curriculum?

[DisplacedDiraac]

How exactly would you go about home schooling your kids West? Would you follow the national curriculum?

I'm not sure yet.. Obviously it would take time for me to settle into a homeschooling style that works for me.. So I'll have to experiment with different styles.. But I'm sure I won't follow the national curriculum.. What's the point in replicating what they would have done in school at home.. Hoverever, I wouldn't complete unschool them like some homeschooling parents.. I would try to find a middle ground.

I would definitely teach them the 3 main subjects *English, Maths, Science*.. I would want their education to be alot more Islamic than it would be if I sent them to a mainstream school.. In shaa Allah I would teach them Islamic studies, Arabic, adeeb, hadeeth etc..

[BlackVelvet]

Until what age would you home school them?