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Re: Is this the end of Islamic movements in political office

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:14 pm
by GalliumerianSlayer
Arabs and Democracy don't work tbh, changing leaders like Chelsea changing managers.

But let the Egyptians enjoy their military rule as they have been since 1952.

Re: Is this the end of Islamic movements in political office

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:52 pm
by ihatewritingessays
LetsCookBreakfast wrote:He has led the people of Masr astray by encouraging democracy while being a supposed advocator of Islam. He had the chance to establish Islamic rule in Masr after the fall of the transgressor Hosni Mubarak. There are millions of people in Egypt calling for the Khilāfa. Morsi has betrayed the believers by succumbing to the demands of the mushrikeen. He needs to make tawbah right away and rally the true believers to establish an Islamic state in Masr governed by the Sharia.
it would have backfired majorly if he tried from the get-go. times are waay different and for him to gradually introduce the system would make more sense.

Re: Is this the end of Islamic movements in political office

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:55 pm
by LetsCookBreakfast
It was never in his plans to establish an Islamic state. He just wanted to be Hosni Mubarak 2.0.

Re: Is this the end of Islamic movements in political office

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:02 pm
by DR-YALAXOOW
its wrong military intervention in politics and The toppling of Mursi Islamic brotherhood government . people who against Mursi and islamist party should respect the democratic election which Islamic brotherhood party has won and same time I dont Think Egpty will be like Algeria where after islamist won election milatry took over and civilwar followed were 150 thousen people were killed the war between salafi against the goverment of algeria where in the endthe salafi jihadist were defeated.


Egypty problem today first is the worsening economic situation. 80 million population its huge tast to manage any goverment . people in Egypty was very naive to Think after Mubarak Everything will be fine. but unfornatly evrything Went bad to worst. economy is heavily depend on tourism andsuffer greatly when unrest started and it coused lost of millions of jobs in Egypt. NO Matter what kind of goverment take the Power situation will not be get better in years..

Re: Is this the end of Islamic movements in political office

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:37 am
by FAH1223
DR-YALAXOOW wrote:its wrong military intervention in politics and The toppling of Mursi Islamic brotherhood government . people who against Mursi and islamist party should respect the democratic election which Islamic brotherhood party has won and same time I dont Think Egpty will be like Algeria where after islamist won election milatry took over and civilwar followed were 150 thousen people were killed the war between salafi against the goverment of algeria where in the endthe salafi jihadist were defeated.


Egypty problem today first is the worsening economic situation. 80 million population its huge tast to manage any goverment . people in Egypty was very naive to Think after Mubarak Everything will be fine. but unfornatly evrything Went bad to worst. economy is heavily depend on tourism andsuffer greatly when unrest started and it coused lost of millions of jobs in Egypt. NO Matter what kind of goverment take the Power situation will not be get better in years..
'i agree

country needs years of stability to recover

Re: Is this the end of Islamic movements in political office

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:48 am
by Titanium
Political Islam is over for most Muslim nations. It will eventually end for all Muslim countries once the older generation dies. Muslims have started to become way too liberal. I guess we have globalization to thank.

However, I won't say that for Egypt just yet. If the MB isn't banned like before, they will be the biggest opposition for a few more decades or even win the following elections (in fact, I have them for this election coming up). But it is important to note that in the last election, Morsi won by a thin margin. I think 51% or something in the second ballot.

Re: Is this the end of Islamic movements in political office

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:15 am
by Oxidant
grandpakhalif wrote:Even with all that, Islam was much better off, people were able to practice freely and preach without harassment from security apparatus. Egyptians who went to fight Assad were given leeway and were encouraged by Morsi. Morsi stood up for the sahaba in Iran, and exclaimed their honor in Tehran.
Maybe this is why he failed. He was talking and thinking about Iran, Syria and Ethiopia for example; when Egypt has more pressing issues like poverty, overpopulation, corrupt, social decay and economic stagnation.

Re: Is this the end of Islamic movements in political office

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:26 am
by LetsCookBreakfast
It was evident that Morsi would fail from day one. He didn't care for his own citizens even when protests shook Egypt. He was stubborn and his disposal was a result of this.

Re: Is this the end of Islamic movements in political office

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:52 am
by FAH1223
I thought I'd bump this up. It seems Islamic political movements that fail (vast majority) do not focus on the economic issues but rather on trivial issues such as women's clothing, comedians, idiotic atheists/agnostics, etc when the majority live in mass poverty.

The AK Party in Turkey has been able to bring better economic results in the last decade which explains their success.

Re: Is this the end of Islamic movements in political office

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:02 am
by Shirib
Well they're done with the political process, power is attained through the barrel of the gun

Re: Is this the end of Islamic movements in political office

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:17 am
by FAH1223
Shirib wrote:Well they're done with the political process, power is attained through the barrel of the gun
Its amazing how paranoid and antagnostic the ordinary Masri is to the Ikhwan. They seem to feel that the Ikhwan will take Egypt away from its character.

Re: Is this the end of Islamic movements in political office

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:22 am
by Grant
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 130AAsaEFe

The French Revolution started in 1789 and finished in 1799.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Re ... 88%9250%29

The Chinese Revolution lasted from 1946 to 1950.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 623AAfYJGS

The Russian Revolution didn't end until 1926.

I am guessing the Egyptian Revolution is not over yet.

Re: Is this the end of Islamic movements in political office

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:26 am
by Shirib
FAH1223 wrote:
Shirib wrote:Well they're done with the political process, power is attained through the barrel of the gun
Its amazing how paranoid and antagnostic the ordinary Masri is to the Ikhwan. They seem to feel that the Ikhwan will take Egypt away from its character.
The ikhwan is too good for Egypt, I only wish Hassan Al Banna and Sayyid Qutb were Somali

Re: Is this the end of Islamic movements in political office

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:34 am
by FAH1223
Shirib wrote:
The ikhwan is too good for Egypt, I only wish Hassan Al Banna and Sayyid Qutb were Somali
Hassan Sheikh is Ikhwani

Re: Is this the end of Islamic movements in political office

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:38 am
by hargaysaay
The Ikhwan are nothing more than big bearded westerns stooges in suits , you don't have to make them saints . everyone knows their
role and their attempted backstabbing when Jamal Abdilnasr was facing the Zionists .