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Clown wrote:

HigherLevel wrote:Subeer waryahoy is not 14, its that troll hydrogen i thought u knew

Lol how is it me you idiot. Do you think I know that much about Islam? You're completely brain dead.

hydrogen maxaad magacaan Clown ku jeclaatay?

Warhooys age shows in his replies, but mashallah his half the age of many snetters and knows a lot about the deen.

DeeqaDagan wrote:

Clown wrote:

HigherLevel wrote:Subeer waryahoy is not 14, its that troll hydrogen i thought u knew

Lol how is it me you idiot. Do you think I know that much about Islam? You're completely brain dead.

hydrogen maxaad magacaan Clown ku jeclaatay?

Dunno short and cute lol

Clown wrote:Nice little muxaatharo, but waryaahoy needs to be guided since he lives in Saudi and is part of that culture where they believe everyone else is wrong and won't hesitate to condemn other Muslims.

i've been born and bred in the UK., i've been in ksa for xooga yar

look what imam malik RA said about some of the sufi bidcas:

In Tarteeb al-Madaarik by Qaadi Iyyaadh (2/54) at-Teneesee: "We were with Malik and his companions around him. A man from the people of Naseebeen said, "We have a people called Sufis who eat a lot then they mention lines of poetry and then they stand up to dance?"

Malik (rahimahullaah) said, "Are they children?"

He said, "no."

Malik (rahimahullaah) said, "Are they possessed?"

He said, "no, they are elderly and usually sane (when they are not doing that)."

Malik (rahimahullaah) said, "I never heard anyone from the people of Islam doing this.!!"

The man said, "rather they eat then they stand and dance. Some of them hitting their heads and some their faces." So Malik (rahimahullaah) laughed and then stood up and went to his house. The companions of Malik (rahimahullaah) said to the man you were fortunate with our companion since we sat with him for thirty odd years, we never saw him laugh except on this day."

look what imam ash shaafici RA said:
Baihaqee reports in Manaqib ash-Shaafee, "If a man becomes a Sufi in the first part of the day, by the time Zhohr comes upon him you will find him crazy."

Rabee ibn Sulaiman reports: I heard ash-Shafee say, "I have never seen a sane Sufi except for Muslim al-Khawas."

Ibrahim ibn Mawlid mentions that ash-Shafee said, "A Sufi cannot be a Sufi unless he has four characteristics; he is lazy, he eats too much, sleeps too much with much extravagance and wastefulness."

Ibn Jawzi in Talbees Iblees p.371 said that ash-Shafee said, "The sanity of a person never returned to the one who continued to stay with a Sufi for 40 days."

Imam ad-Deen as-Subki ash-Shafee, "whoever is from these later generation Sufis such as Ibn Arabi and other than him, then they are misguided, ignorant and outside of the path of Islam let alone be considered as scholars." [See the book Tanbeeh al-Ghabi of Imam Burhaan al-Biqaaee ash-Shafee p.68]

look what imam abu xaniifah RA said:
Imam Tartoushi al-Maliki (451H-520H) was asked about the Sufis so he said, "The Madhab of the Sufis is futile, ignorance, misguidance… and it is not allowed for anyone who believes in Allaah and the last day to be present with them, nor to help them upon their baseless ways and this is the way of Malik, Abu Haneefah, ash-Shafee and other than them from the scholars of the Muslims and to Allaah belongs success." [See Tafseer Qurtubi 11/237/238]

waryaahoy wrote:

Clown wrote:Nice little muxaatharo, but waryaahoy needs to be guided since he lives in Saudi and is part of that culture where they believe everyone else is wrong and won't hesitate to condemn other Muslims.

i've been born and bred in the UK., i've been in ksa for xooga yar

If you were 'bred' in the UK you wouldn't be the same person as you're portraying....

Clown wrote:

waryaahoy wrote:

Clown wrote:Nice little muxaatharo, but waryaahoy needs to be guided since he lives in Saudi and is part of that culture where they believe everyone else is wrong and won't hesitate to condemn other Muslims.

i've been born and bred in the UK., i've been in ksa for xooga yar

If you were 'bred' in the UK you wouldn't be the same person as you're portraying....

what?

And also, i do not make takfeer on many people. only nacas yaqoubi. i just said that HY is a deviant

You said he was a mushrik, at your age, you don't want to admit your wrongs, just as any other child would, there are codoubtless sayings of the 4 imams praising the way of tassawuf, you don't even know what it is yet you insult it,and the irony of your post is that hamza yusuf is a devout maliki and mentions imam Malik in nearly all of his lectures, to you be your judgemental takfiri way, and to me be mine.

Mashallah, brother Abuukar, you made some great points. May Allah increase your 'ilm.

huh? since when did i say tasawwuf was xaraam? tasawwuf iss not bidcah and is part of the deen. im talking about someone using a verse of Qur'aan that praises ALlah and says it talks about about Rasuulki SAW and applies the Asmaa' Was Sifaat of Allah to Rasuulki SAW.



I have seen sufis like this in real life. i've seen numerous bidci sufis so i know what im talking about.

LetsCookBreakfast wrote:Mashallah, brother Abuukar, you made some great points. May Allah increase your 'ilm.

Jzk, may Allah increase yours too.


Waryaahoy I don't slander sheikhs, Allah is Al-Hakam not you, if you do not agree with them, fair enough, no one is forcing you to give bay's to him. As for Hamza Yusuf, he is a Muslim who dedicated more than 20 years studying Sunni islam and is a follow of the maliki mathab, to slander is not the way of the prophet, your manners are not in accordance to the sunnah your yelling mushrik to people like a crazy takfiri, I'm saying to you, guard your tongue because it can kill you.

Your putting all sufi's in one category, that's not good

Look at the exceptions to backbiting by imam an nawawi. one of them is that when someone is openly spreading evil, it is an exception to backbiting. and also hasan al basri said that there is no backbiting for the one shows his evil openly.

And i knew extreme sufis like yacquubi.

and im not putting all sufis in one category. im talking about the ones like yacqoubi and jifri