Re: Odayasha Beesha Bimaal iyo Surre kismaayo ka so hadlay
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:09 am
by Marques
guhad122 wrote:
samatar133 wrote:Are those guys part of Axmed Madoobe's Jubaland??
Yes Samatar!!! What most people don't know is that Axmed Madoobe's Jubbaland State administration is one of the most inclusive of any Somali state or government. To give you prospective on this; there are seven high-ranking Jubbaland delegation members that fly with him all the time unlike Adeer Culusoow who trusts only Unukaa Leh folks.
The delegation clan members are: Daarood, Dir, Digil/Mirifle, Hawiye, and Beesha Shanaad. All of them are now with him in Nairobi.
Allah been maxaa leesku sheegaa.
Re: Odayasha Beesha Bimaal iyo Surre kismaayo ka so hadlay
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:21 am
by AbkoowDhiblaawe
MarsinQorahay wrote:
Warsheekh wrote:
im welcome in Merca anyday
are u in xamar right now?
Nope came back last friday
Re: Odayasha Beesha Bimaal iyo Surre kismaayo ka so hadlay
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:22 am
by samatar133
guhad122 wrote:
samatar133 wrote:Are those guys part of Axmed Madoobe's Jubaland??
Yes Samatar!!! What most people don't know is that Axmed Madoobe's Jubbaland State administration is one of the most inclusive of any Somali state or government. To give you prospective on this; there are seven high-ranking Jubbaland delegation members that fly with him all the time unlike Adeer Culusoow who trusts only Unukaa Leh folks.
The delegation clan members are: Daarood, Dir, Digil/Mirifle, Hawiye, and Beesha Shanaad. All of them are now with him in Nairobi.
If Jubaland is inclusive as you claimed, how come the entire maamul ku sheeg is Jabarti only. The president is Jeberti, so is the vice president and the mayor of Kismaayo?
Re: Odayasha Beesha Bimaal iyo Surre kismaayo ka so hadlay
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:35 am
by EEGA9
Somaliman_50 wrote:
guhad122 wrote:
samatar133 wrote:Are those guys part of Axmed Madoobe's Jubaland??
Yes Samatar!!! What most people don't know is that Axmed Madoobe's Jubbaland State administration is one of the most inclusive of any Somali state or government. To give you prospective on this; there are seven high-ranking Jubbaland delegation members that fly with him all the time unlike Adeer Culusoow who trusts only Unukaa Leh folks.
The delegation clan members are: Daarood, Dir, Digil/Mirifle, Hawiye, and Beesha Shanaad. All of them are now with him in Nairobi.
Allah been maxaa leesku sheegaa.
Forty five minutes before winding down the event, the Jubaland president, Ahmed Islam, took over the microphone. He repeated on several occasion during the speech: ‘I am Somali; and Jubaland is not seceding from the rest of Somalia, with roars of ululation from the women quarters and persistent clubbing from throughout the meeting hall.
These were powerful and encouraging words for a nation which is trying to recover from a protracted conflict; the words were truly unifying in a society that has fragmented over the past couple of decades.
After a brief overview of the current situation in the region, the president began by introducing his delegation:
“Some people say that one group is pushing for the formation of Jubaland. Look at our delegation”, adding, while pointing a finger at the podium and pronouncing their first names with occasional nicknames thrown in: ‘Bistoolo is from the GaalJe’el clan; Abukar is from the Sheekhaal clan; Abbaas is from the Jareer clan; Abukar is from the Baajuun clan; Mohamed Sheikh is from the Awramaleh clan; and Abdi Fiilow is from the Garreh clan, as they all waved to the crowd in front of them.
Re: Odayasha Beesha Bimaal iyo Surre kismaayo ka so hadlay
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:38 am
by EEGA9
samatar133 wrote:
guhad122 wrote:
samatar133 wrote:Are those guys part of Axmed Madoobe's Jubaland??
Yes Samatar!!! What most people don't know is that Axmed Madoobe's Jubbaland State administration is one of the most inclusive of any Somali state or government. To give you prospective on this; there are seven high-ranking Jubbaland delegation members that fly with him all the time unlike Adeer Culusoow who trusts only Unukaa Leh folks.
The delegation clan members are: Daarood, Dir, Digil/Mirifle, Hawiye, and Beesha Shanaad. All of them are now with him in Nairobi.
If Jubaland is inclusive as you claimed, how come the entire maamul ku sheeg is Jabarti only. The president is Jeberti, so is the vice president and the mayor of Kismaayo?
The administration has not been announced yet due to the ongoing issues of the SFG, only the VP and Prez. The Kismaayo admin is temporary.
Re: Odayasha Beesha Bimaal iyo Surre kismaayo ka so hadlay
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:16 am
by EEGA9
Rabshoole wrote:
Beesha Surre iyo Biimaal are making their way to S/hoose to defend their brethens, Walle HG dambe ma'la maqli doono. The sleeping lions have finally woken up.
I think that's the RSK commander(casual clothes) sitting next to the Sarkaal...Jubbaland supporting the resistance in Sh.hoose
Re: Odayasha Beesha Bimaal iyo Surre kismaayo ka so hadlay
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:25 am
by samatar133
Eega
What about if those guys demand to form their own maamul on the Lower shabeele, their part of the Middle Juba aka ( Jilib district) and Lower Juba ( Jamaame district).
Re: Odayasha Beesha Bimaal iyo Surre kismaayo ka so hadlay
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:37 am
by The`Republic
To be honest Habar Gidir especially Cayr and Sacad lived in Shabellada Hoose for a long time. A Sacad guy told me his entire family is from Shabellada Hoose for three generations.
These people should find peace and live together as neighbors. Even if some Cayr came in the last twenty years, how do you tell the Cayr kid who is twenty and born and bred there this is not his land as a Somali Muslim kid who lives with other Somali Muslims?
People should stop fanning flames of war.
Re: Odayasha Beesha Bimaal iyo Surre kismaayo ka so hadlay
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:42 am
by EEGA9
samatar133 wrote:Eega
What about if those guys demand to form their own maamul on the Lower shabeele, their part of the Middle Juba aka ( Jilib district) and Lower Juba ( Jamaame district).
States have recognized borders and federal states can only be formed with 2 full states or more not through districts and towns plus those areas are inhabited by various clans so its better for the people in those regions to come under Jubbaland of which these regions/districts/towns fall under.
Re: Odayasha Beesha Bimaal iyo Surre kismaayo ka so hadlay
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:01 am
by samatar133
EEGA9 wrote:
samatar133 wrote:Eega
What about if those guys demand to form their own maamul on the Lower shabeele, their part of the Middle Juba aka ( Jilib district) and Lower Juba ( Jamaame district).
States have recognized borders and federal states can only be formed with 2 full states or more not through districts and towns plus those areas are inhabited by various clans so its better for the people in those regions to come under Jubbaland of which these regions/districts/towns fall under.
Your current Jubaland has the support of only some sections of Kismayo town and the Afmadow district and yet you call that a dawlad
Dir plus minorities in the Middle Juba can easily form a majority in that region which can demand to join with the Lower Shabeele to form a federal state.
Lower Shabeele, Middle Juba and half of Lower Juba can make their two and half maamul goboleed just like Puntland did
meanwhile you can keep Kismaayo and Afmadow and join where ever you want.
Re: Odayasha Beesha Bimaal iyo Surre kismaayo ka so hadlay
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:30 am
by EEGA9
LOL you don't know the demographic of the region, your whole aim is to take a swipe at a clan. The Maamul will reach these areas and the elders have sanctioned it
Re: Odayasha Beesha Bimaal iyo Surre kismaayo ka so hadlay
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:43 am
by oxymoron
The`Republic wrote:To be honest Habar Gidir especially Cayr and Sacad lived in Shabellada Hoose for a long time. A Sacad guy told me his entire family is from Shabellada Hoose for three generations.
These people should find peace and live together as neighbors. Even if some Cayr came in the last twenty years, how do you tell the Cayr kid who is twenty and born and bred there this is not his land as a Somali Muslim kid who lives with other Somali Muslims?
People should stop fanning flames of war.
Shabellada Hoose has and will always belong to Bimaal, as a deegaan, but like anywhere else in Somalia all other Somali citizens are welcome.
But that welcome does not include the authority to rule the region or claim it for your clan over Bimaal. Few or a dozens Sacad citizens living peacefully among the welcoming and peaceful people of Shabellada Hoose does not Make Sacad or the average Habar-Gidir from Galgaduud an equal stakeholder in Shabellada Hoose.
Re: Odayasha Beesha Bimaal iyo Surre kismaayo ka so hadlay
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:11 am
by samatar133
EEGA9 wrote:LOL you don't know the demographic of the region, your whole aim is to take a swipe at a clan. The Maamul will reach these areas and the elders have sanctioned it
A guy from Ethiopia knows the demographics of the region more than me
What do mean the elders have sanctioned? which elders are you talking about and what have they sanctioned?
Re: Odayasha Beesha Bimaal iyo Surre kismaayo ka so hadlay
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:13 am
by BlackVelvet
Rabshoole, why do you support this?
Re: Odayasha Beesha Bimaal iyo Surre kismaayo ka so hadlay
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:29 am
by samatar133
Koonfurian Dirs are a bunch of politically inept people.
They don't create anything at all, they are just reactionaries to events