Greatest History on African Lands + Architecture

Daily chitchat.

Moderators: Moderators, Junior Moderators

Forum rules
This General Forum is for general discussions from daily chitchat to more serious discussions among Somalinet Forums members. Please do not use it as your Personal Message center (PM). If you want to contact a particular person or a group of people, please use the PM feature. If you want to contact the moderators, pls PM them. If you insist leaving a public message for the mods or other members, it will be deleted.
User avatar
gurey25
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 19349
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:00 pm
Location: you dont wana know, trust me.
Contact:

Re: Greatest History on African Lands + agritecture

Post by gurey25 »

maashallah, xamar, and merca and barawa are the jewels of the Indian Ocean along with mombasa, and zanzibar.

imgaine if the gareen dynasty continued to rule till the time of the colonial invasion.
User avatar
BlackVelvet
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 23249
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:54 pm
Location: On Idman's mind

Re: Greatest History on African Lands + Architecture

Post by BlackVelvet »

Nice thread :up:
User avatar
STARKAST
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 5150
Joined: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:07 am
Location: Bale mountains, Somali Galbeed

Re: Greatest History on African Lands + Architecture

Post by STARKAST »

:sland: running away from this. This is your history.

Great thread. Sad that these structures and city is occupied by beasts. Beasts is the right word and a understatement.
User avatar
Casanova25
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 2778
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:25 pm
Location: **********************

Re: Greatest History on African Lands + Architecture

Post by Casanova25 »

the Full abtirsi tree of ajuran

Ibrahim (aka Balcadde) married Faduma Jambele Hawiiye and had five sons: Ulagiire, Aruure, Garuure, Hintire and Aadan.

Ajuuraan is the son of Aqiil who is the son of the aforementioned Aadan.

The Family tree: paternal
1.Ajūrān
2.Son of Aqīl
3.Son of Ādan
4.Son of Ibrahīm (Balʿadde)
5.Son of Alama (Baqōn)
6.Son of Balʿad
7.Son of Ēdimāle (Aidimāl)
8.Son of Kāle
9.Son of Fās
10.Son of Sarman
11.Son of Lōlay
12.Son of Ḥāfis
13.Son of Ḥamare (Ḥarmalle)
14.Son of Samāle
15.Son of Ḥīl (Īl)
16.Son of Abrōne (Wālid)
17.Son of Lōḥān
18.Son of Kāmil (Ḥāshi)

Maternal Tree

Father: Alama (Baqōn) son of Balʿad

Children born by Faduma son of Jambele
1.Ulagīre son of Ibrahīm
2.Arūre son of Ibrahīm
3.Garūre son of Ibrahīm
4.Hintire son of Ibrahīm
5.Ādan son of Ibrahīm

I have finally found A mann WHO have dedicated his life on Ajuuraan tribes Abtirsi(forefather tree)
James Dahl sources from ajuuraans themselves.

I've recently been able to put together the abtiris of the last Imam of the Ajuuraan, Imam Cumar Ciise Tukul.
http://www.abtirsi.com/view.php?person=4313

I'd been told before that the royal family of the Gareen branched through Abdallah Dayle, but Imam Cumar branches through Saarjecele Dayle, the same branch from which Cali Cismaan Mudulood's mother descends.
User avatar
Casanova25
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 2778
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:25 pm
Location: **********************

Re: Greatest History on African Lands + agritecture

Post by Casanova25 »

qoraxeey wrote:
Advo wrote::ducktales: :ducktales: :ducktales:


Advo . like usual U always make me laugh :lol:
it was never a secret that the farmers of yesterday would mock there Imams, Rulers, and dead islamic scholars.

Show some respect towards the men, WHO have protected somalia from gumeysi. thats why we are not Afro-americans today. because of the battles in Barawe and Mogadishu..

this is not a Qabiil thread, so be kind and take your bashing some where else.
User avatar
Casanova25
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 2778
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:25 pm
Location: **********************

Re: Greatest History on African Lands + Architecture

Post by Casanova25 »

qoraxeey wrote:yes its a qabiil thread :|


take your ducktales somewhere else

with imaams, leaders & "kingdosm" nobody heard of :lol: :clap:

it was mostly darood leaders who saved somalia for gumeysi 8-)

most of those old mosques and buildings was built by arabs / persians ..and the rest italians ..thats why the people in those areas are very ligh skinned :)
You just wanna troll. I see that.

If you have no knowlegde of this why not just read or seek knowlegde instead of shaming yourself. You have not read the history or know nothing. make a troll thread in the general section. i will come and debate with you. but do not post in here. this is my Model.

Based upon 100% historical facts. I will ask the Moderators to close this thread, for only review and not trolling.
User avatar
LeJusticier
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 8473
Joined: Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:36 pm
Location: base of sufism. Imam Le Justicier ...Xerta Dareenka

Re: Greatest History on African Lands + Architecture

Post by LeJusticier »

Historic pics
:ehh:
OjOO
SomaliNetizen
SomaliNetizen
Posts: 522
Joined: Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:12 am

Re: Greatest History on African Lands + Architecture

Post by OjOO »

how come arabsio, waaqooy don't have this kind buildings. :shock: :?
User avatar
Casanova25
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 2778
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:25 pm
Location: **********************

Re: Greatest History on African Lands + Architecture

Post by Casanova25 »

User avatar
Casanova25
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 2778
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:25 pm
Location: **********************

Re: Greatest History on African Lands + Architecture

Post by Casanova25 »

Said of Mogadishu the first traveller even before ibn battuta

Sa'id of Mogadishu (Somali: Saciid min Muqdisho, Arabic: سعيد من مقديشو Sa'iid min maqadīshū‎) was a 14th-century Somali scholar and traveler.

Biography:

Sa'id left Mogadishu as a teenager to study in Mecca and Medina, where he remained for 28 years gathering knowledge and gaining many disciples. His reputation as a scholar earned him audiences with the Amirs of Mecca and Medina.

Sa'id is said to have afterwards travelled across the Muslim world and visited Bengal and China. During his stay at a mosque on the westcoast of India, he encountered fellow Muslim traveller Ibn Battuta. According to scholar Peter Jackson, Sa'id might have during this occasion shared with Battuta accounts of his travels in China and detailed the political landscape and succession of the Yuan Dynasty, information which Battuta would eventually add in his own chronicles.

some other sources with somali-chinese relations..

Admiral Zheng he visited Mogadishu were he was given 2 giraffe as gifts..

Image

In 1416, Mogadishu sent ambassadors to pay tribute to the Ming dynasty. The Yongle Emperor dispatched Admiral Zheng He to return ambassadors to the Somali city, with Zheng He..

Zheng he is a well known man in the history world.. :up:

they honor him until this day in China
Image

Image

you can find more info about Sa'id of Mogadishu in those books below..

References

1.^ History of Medieval Deccan, 1295-1724: Mainly cultural aspects edited by P. M. Joshi pg 7
2.^Between the Middle Ages and modernity: individual and community in the early By Charles H. Parker, Jerry H. Bentley pg 160
3.^Travels of Ibn Battuta - Review by Peter Jackson, Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society pg 264
User avatar
Casanova25
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 2778
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:25 pm
Location: **********************

Re: Greatest History on African Lands + Architecture

Post by Casanova25 »

Abd al-Aziz of Mogadishu the ruler of Kinolhas Maldives
Abd al-Aziz of Mogadishu (Arabic: عبد العزيز‎) was a 14th-century Somali ruler in Kinolhas, Maldives.

Biography

The presence and high position of Abd al-Aziz in this region highlights the close connections between medieval Maldives and the Somali seamen from Mogadishu sailing the Indian Ocean. They supplied Maldivian traders with exotic animals and musk, and contributed to the ethnogenesis of the Maldivian population.[1][2]

In 1346, Abd al-Aziz welcomed Ibn Battuta at his court and entertained him before giving him a barque to continue his journey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd_al-Aziz_of_Mogadishu
not only did somalis rule the maldives Islands but they also spread Islam to those areas, even the name Maldives comes from a somali name in the beginning. male af somali and later on Dhibat Al Mahal in arabic then it became maldives.

There was also a heavy war in Maldives between the ajuuraan empire and the portuguese in 1424.. the battle famously known as dagaal dhiig badaneey which Means those men actully fought for that Island.. maldives is a peaceful Island i actully believe it was the only serious war in the history of this beautiful place..

Which Means the Island belongs to somalis since they split the most blood for that Island. i think they should re-claim it..
SALDANADDII (BOQORTOOYADII) UJUURAAN
Waa boqoryootadii kaliya ee Afrikan ah ee jirtay casriyadii dhexe Waxay jirtay qarnigii 14aad ilaa kii 17aad.
Waxay dhulki ay degganaayeen iyo degaannadii ay xukumayeen ka difaaceen gumaystihi Burtaqiiska.
Waddamo badan gaar ahaan Koonfur Bari Afrika ayay u hiilliyeen markii ku duulay Butaqiisku.
Adduunka ayay mareen oo xiriirro la sameeyeen dhulal badan ilaa Shiinaha. Waxaa xusid mudan inay Shiinaha la galeen heshiiskii ugu horreeyay ee Afrika iyo Shiinaha dhex mara ee ilaa hadda raadkiisa la hayo.
Waxay qabsadeen oo xukumeen dhulal ay ka mid yihiin Jaziiradda Maldives iyo geyiga Muzambiik oo ay dahab ka qodan jireen. Maldives waxaa kula dagaalay Bortaqiiska 1424 waxaana ka dhacay dagaal loogu magac daray –Dagaal Dhiig Badaney- oo Burtaqiisku ku adkaadeen aakhirkii.
Wadankan Maldives dadkiisu wada muslimiin, sida dastuurkooda ku qoran na qofka aan Muslim ahayni ma noqon karo muwaadin oo ma helayo dhalashada wadanka “Maxaa innaga sidaa dastuurkeenna loogu qori waayay” ayaan is waydiiyay.
Waxay lahaayeen Calan iyo Lacag (Mogadishan) u gaar ah. Lacagtan oo aad looga adeegsan jiray dhulal badan ilaa Imaaraatka inay gaartay ayaa la wariyay.
Caasimaddoodi u horraysay waxay ahayd deegaanka Mareeg oo dhaca xeebta degmada Ceeldheer ee gobolka Galgaduud. Waxay kaloo xarumo maamul ku lahaayeen Marka iyo Qallaafe. Anigu waxan indhahayga ku arkay xeebaha Galgaduud waxyaabo badan oo dhagxaan ka samaysan u na muuqaal eg guryo oo kale kuwaasoo dadka deegaanku ku sheegaan inay yihiin yihiin waxyaabo ay isticmaali jireen Saladanaddii Ujuuraanku.
Kaliya waan daah-furay sheekadu se way dheer tahay ee ka aqriso mareegaha hoose iyadoo English ku qoran anigoo codsanaya in ikhyaar kale ay baaritaan dheeri ah sii sameeyaan si aan u helno xog dheeri ah:

References

1.^ Dhivehi raajje: a portrait of Maldives By Adrian Neville pg 6
2.^ Maldivian Links with Eastern Africa
3.^ The voyage of François Pyrard of Laval: to the East Volume 2, Part 2 By François Pyrard pg 467

Now imagine being welcomed to this Paradise by somali as the ruler like Ibn battuta was welcomed by Abd al Aziz of Mogadishu.. thats priceless you can't buy that experience..

Now let me show you Kinolhas, and the small tiny Island within her areas.. thats actully were most tourist come today..

Image

Image

Image


Meedhupparu is a tiny Island few 1-2 miles away from Kinolhas.. there is tiny Islands in the entire place with Kinolhas being big Island.




This is Kinolhas



The Location of Kinolhas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinolhas


Image
COOL-MAN
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 6049
Joined: Thu May 27, 2004 7:00 pm

Re: Greatest History on African Lands + Architecture

Post by COOL-MAN »

maashaAllah London was also once a hawiye city too.

along with paris and newyork
User avatar
Casanova25
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 2778
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:25 pm
Location: **********************

Re: Greatest History on African Lands + Architecture

Post by Casanova25 »

The somali Colony of Sofala Mozambique

Image

Sofala, at present known as Nova Sofala, used to be the chief seaport of the Monomotapa Kingdom, whose capital was at Mount Fura. It is located on the Sofala Bank in Sofala Province of Mozambique. It was founded by Somali merchants and seafarers from Mogadishu.

One of the oldest harbours documented in Southern Africa, medieval Sofala was erected on the edge of a wide estuary formed by the Buzi River (called Rio de Sofala in older maps). Sofala was founded about the year 700. The Arabs had frequented the coast since 915, followed by traders from Persia.

The Buzi River connected Sofala to the internal market town of Manica, and from there to the goldfields of Great Zimbabwe. Sometime in the 10th century, Sofala emerged as a small trading post erected by Somali merchants and seafarers from Mogadishu (modern capital of Somalia), to trade cotton cloth for gold and ivory. In the 1180s, Sultan Suleiman Hassan of Kilwa (in present-day Tanzania) seized control of Sofala, and brought Sofala into the Kilwa Sultanate and the Swahili cultural sphere. The Swahili strengthened its trading capacity by having, among other things, river-going dhows ply the Buzi and Save rivers to ferry the gold extracted in the hinterlands to the coast.

User avatar
jalaaludin5
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 8832
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:37 am
Location: “Beauties in vain their pretty eyes may roll; Charms strike the sight, but merit wins the soul.”

Re: Greatest History on African Lands + Architecture

Post by jalaaludin5 »

COOL-MAN wrote:maashaAllah London was also once a hawiye city too.

along with paris and newyork
Image
Locked
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “General - General Discussions”