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Less people in mental health hospitals is also due to laws making it harder to involuntarily detain people

conjecture: an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

Perfect_Order wrote:Less people in mental health hospitals is also due to laws making it harder to involuntarily detain people

Tell that to these single minded individuals.

Perfect_Order wrote:Less people in mental health hospitals is also due to laws making it harder to involuntarily detain people

Hmmm, I'm not sure. I don't think you can really talk about mental health without talking about how we stigmatize and label people with mental illness. Please don't get me started on how the pharmaceutical industry just exacerbates this already complicated issue by offering drugs instead of actual treatment.

Spec2014 wrote:conjecture: an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

The data provided is empirical,conjecture doesn't come in to it nor does opinion

311 people released a fact verifiable by observation
193 African Americans fact
94 Caucasians fact
22 Latinos fact
2 Asian American fact

Now which of those facts are opinion or conjecturre

ToughGong wrote:

Spec2014 wrote:conjecture: an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

The data provided is empirical,conjecture doesn't come in to it nor does opinion

311 people released a fact verifiable by observation
193 African Americans fact
94 Caucasians fact
22 Latinos fact
2 Asian American fact

Now which of those facts are opinion or conjecturre

INCOMPLETE INFORMATION & SAMPLES. FURTHERMORE CITE YOUR SOURCE TO THESE NUMBERS & THE COUNTRY OR STATE WHERE THIS IS PURPORTED TO HAVE TAKEN PLACE

Country-The one in question
Samples-Already given
Source -Already given (The Innocence Project)

ToughGong wrote:Country-The one in question
Samples-Already given
Source -Already given (The Innocence Project)

So you expect someone to simply take this at face value??? I rest my case all we have here is non-substantiated conjecture once more!

If only someone would contribute something original/new research to this thread. *clicks her heels*

That is absolutely disgusting. They should do the humane thing and kill them all.

SavySallySupersedes wrote:

Perfect_Order wrote:Less people in mental health hospitals is also due to laws making it harder to involuntarily detain people

Hmmm, I'm not sure. I don't think you can really talk about mental health without talking about how we stigmatize and label people with mental illness. Please don't get me started on how the pharmaceutical industry just exacerbates this already complicated issue by offering drugs instead of actual treatment.

it's a fact, in my state you can only detain someone involuntarily for upto 3 days and only if they are a risk to themselves or others, then you have to prove to a judge they are still a threat, then you get 2weeks, then you got another court hearing and if you win you get a month. All this time the person gets a lawyer arguing against you.

Also pharmaceuticals are a blessing, for real diseases like paranoia, schizophrenia, mania, etc. If you have cures for them plz do tell.

Perfect_Order wrote: it's a fact, in my state you can only detain someone involuntarily for upto 3 days and only if they are a risk to themselves or others, then you have to prove to a judge they are still a threat, then you get 2weeks, then you got another court hearing and if you win you get a month. All this time the person gets a lawyer arguing against you.

Also pharmaceuticals are a blessing, for real diseases like paranoia, schizophrenia, mania, etc. If you have cures for them plz do tell.

Every state's laws are different. It's indisputable that funds once reserved for mental health treatment are being drastically cut, and instead prison expansion is happening. Prisons are not only overshadowing mental health institutions, but drug counseling facilities, and public schools (i.e. school-to-jail pipeline). It's the only solution we have because there's so much profit to be made.

I'm weary about incessant drug use because there are better alternatives (behavioral therapy, wilderness therapy, changing diet/environment, exercise etc.). As for a chronic illness like you mentioned, a combination of drugs and therapy is needed. Not just drugs alone.