Somalia New Deal conference in Brussels (discussion)

[Titanium]

It is your moral duty to stand behind the current Somalia gov't. We have no time for petty politics my friend.

Do you want to be a nationalist or an enemy spoiler?

[Casanova25]

The mucaard in here are far from the reality on the ground, thats why they don't know, the interest of there own people/tribes. there is poverty, lack of Water and to many mouths to feed for a single Family. so tribal issues are the last thing they are thinking about. OD is home and safe somewhere with no poverty or hunger. so the only reason for him is Qabiil. if he is truthful he would have bought a oneway ticket and liberate Laascaanood.

thats what i would have done if i were OD, but Again am not OD.

[oxymoron]

It is your moral duty to stand behind the current Somalia gov't. We have no time for petty politics my friend.

Do you want to be a nationalist or an enemy spoiler?

It's an insult to intelligence to stand behind Incompetent leadership, that is determined to take the country back to 91 petty tribal politics.

Nationalist are those that stand to fight and Eradicate the likes of Al Shabaab from our country, rather than fighting the foundation of our unity Federal Government; Federalism.

[Titanium]

I refuse to believe the likes of you are concerned. As I said, its clan motivated. Your tune would change if a fellow kin member sat in Villa Somalia

You guys make your point across by posting the pictures of the dead in atleast three topics. Cant you respect the dead? Why politicize their deaths?

[original dervish]

What you believe is a personal matter, just don`t expect me to follow divisive and incompetent leadership blindly.
Furthermore, you seem more offended by the pictures rather than the deed.

If you want to point the finger look to your Shabaab loving "They are our sons", president.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Another Begging Conference.

This is Somalia anno 2013



Lets change the whole Country's name to Looma OoyaanLand.

[Titanium]

But you guys were opposed since his inauguration. You didnt give him a chance

The govt has said no amnesty for foreign fighters or senior level guys. Everyone else is only part of the group because of income. Abdiweli himself said Shabab were "their kids".

I give Hassan Sheikh an A- for his first year in office. Not perfect but an amazing start so far. He will be Somalia's best President. An A+ for his international politics and B+ for security

[oxymoron]

But you guys were opposed since his inauguration. You didnt give him a chance

The govt has said no amnesty for foreign fighters or senior level guys. Everyone else is only part of the group because of income. Abdiweli himself said Shabab were "their kids".

I give Hassan Sheikh an A- for his first year in office. Not perfect but an amazing start so far. He will be Somalia's best President. An A+ for his international politics and B+ for security

I was in Galkayo the night he was elected, fully out celebrations and support. He was seen as a Somali President than, his actions changed the view people had of him.
Marka who's fault is that?

[original dervish]

He has clearly failed by any reasonable measurement.

Security....say no more.
Unity....the country has never been so divided since the 1990s.
Corruption....Please refer to the many UN reports.
Near term out look.....UN secetary Generals recent statement about Somalia slipping back to failed state status.

Hassan Sheikh`s only constituency is the shadowy people/groups who put up the bribe money for him to get elected.
He has no legitimacy or credibility.

[Titanium]

Oxymoron,

The propaganda mouthpieces Garowe Online and Puntlandi and others are at fault. They went full force in their campaign the moment Shirdoon was chosen as PM, claiming his wife was part of HAG.

its unfortunate you have resorted to petty clan politics. If you love your country, rally behind the govt. Unity, not division

OD,

just yesterday, those UN reports were dismissed by forensic auditors and the UN security council. It has been proven to be lies

Mogadishu has the most security in the country. But the capital is the prize so the terrorists will do all it can to get it back and that includes commiting cowardly acts. They are desparate. Other cities in Somalia are not peaceful because they got great security. Al Shabab would have captured the whole country if it werent for the Ethiopians in 06 and Amisom. They are peaceful because they are preoccupied with the capital. They need it first. OD, if you were dedicated enough to pull off another 7/7 in the London underground, are you telling me you would fail? Wouldn't your success rate be high granted that you dont do a fuck up? You cant stop a dedicated terrorist. Al Shabab have been defeated but not completely cleansed. We are at the final stage

[zidane88]

I wish to support and stand behind our Government, but when the likes of Dahir aweys got a VIP treatment, do you think it will give me confidence to trust the Government?. We need someone who takes tough stance against AL-Shabab, not a divider. A government based on shared- multi-clan positions where every clan see themselves, example: Hamar-weyne mayor should be Xamar cad-cad, not someone from the desert.

[oxymoron]

I wish to support and stand behind our Government, but when the likes of Dahir aweys got a VIP treatment, do you think it will give me confidence to trust the Government?. We need someone who takes tough stance against AL-Shabab, not a divider. A government based on shared- multi-clan positions where every clan see themselves, example: Hamar-weyne mayor should be Xamar cad-cad, not someone from the desert.

[original dervish]

Ti....are you for real?
Al Shabaab have become stronger since Hassan Sheikh came to office....this is a fact.
He and his Govt were preoccupied with sidelining and excluding Daroods from the political process, rather than confronting terrorism.
How are Al Shabaab....whom are at their weakest point for years, able to mount atrocity after atrocity virtually unchallenged?

I`ll tell you why....The Hagites were so preoccupied by Kismayo that nothing else mattered....not even the security of Mogadishu.

[oxymoron]

Ti....are you for real?
Al Shabaab have become stronger since Hassan Sheikh came to office....this is a fact.
He and his Govt were preoccupied with sidelining and excluding Daroods from the political process, rather than confronting terrorism.
How are Al Shabaab....whom are at their weakest point for years, able to mount atrocity after atrocity virtually unchallenged?

I`ll tell you why....The Hagites were so preoccupied by Kismayo that nothing else mattered....not even the security of Mogadishu.

[Titanium]

Xamar cad cad have 1 out of the 16 district commissioner position. Mogadishu is around 2 million. The Xamar Cad Cad are more than represented or are we to assume there are more than 125,000 (1 in 16) Xamar cad cads in Muqdisho? They domt number a few thousand

Dahir Aweys is in custody. Id want him executed but its hypocritical since warlords and , murderers are walking free. If we kill him, we must kill all. Including your own criminals. Are you prepared to do that or are you clan motivated as I suspedt you are?



As for you OD, if Al Shabab is so strong, why don't they control any city and why do they resort to guerilla warfare? Why do they only control small towns in the middle of the Bush?