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asad regime as rest of arab regimes at the moment, not a threat to USA and western world. he will get away with it and win this round.
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hargaysaay wrote:
Jax wrote:No he isn't he's supporting the "moderates" aka the stooges of America like General Idris and the SNC, I support the true Islamists.
Yeah Islamists like The Islamic State of Iraq and Levant . who are busy either blowing up markets in Baghdad or beheading people in Syria .
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hyperactive wrote:asad regime as rest of arab regimes at the moment, not a threat to USA and western world. he will get away with it and win this round.
Hyber sxb is that you in the Pic , are you one them 3 guys .
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His days are numbered. The mujahideen recently recaptured that historic Christian town, the tide is turning.
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hargaysaay wrote:
hyperactive wrote:asad regime as rest of arab regimes at the moment, not a threat to USA and western world. he will get away with it and win this round.
Hyber sxb is that you in the Pic , are you one them 3 guys .
lol, im sound that old? loool. one of them is my dad and other two his brothers.
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Wallahi I think this is all just one big game and the world is being played. Deep down I have a gut feeling that Syria, Iran are actually not enemies of the US and are clandestine allies and working for some common goal. I think they are just playing along as boogeymen.
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anika, kuwan maryaha waweyn in rewayad lo dogayo ban o maleyni. iran was a baboon to scare them for ages.
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Obama is going to strike once Congress says no.

OR

http://freakoutnation.blogspot.com/2013 ... o.html?m=1
As the media interprets recent events as Obama’s march to war, America and the world falls for it hook, line and sinker. Say what you want about Obama but he is a very smart man. He would never ask permission he did not need from Congress to launch a strike on Syria unless he knew beyond a doubt he could get it. That is if his real intentions were to actually carry out military operations. But why on earth does it appear he wants this war?


After agonizing over this question over and over I began to realize there is only one logical explanation. He does not. Only a month ago the GOP was accusing Obama of being weak for not acting when the “red line” was crossed. There was pressure for him not only from the US but from the world as well. The reputation of the great American defender was on the line. Still it was obvious at the time Obama did not want to rush into another quagmire, bogging down the rest of his tenure as our nation’s leader. But the evidence kept rolling in. He had to do something not only for his reputation as a world leader but for the United States as well.

Cue the British Parliament to provide Obama with the perfect out. Just days after Britain’s governing body eliminated any joint action with the US to participate in a coalition to strike the Assad regime, Obama made a surprising and decisive move. Against the advice of all his advisors, he put any US participation in the hands of our do-nothing Congress with no chance they would give him the approval he needed. Not because it isn’t the right thing to do but because Obama was asking for it. The outcome is a given if you just take a step back and look at the situation rationally. And there is no way Obama is going to launch this attack once Congress says no. It would be political suicide. Bush may have gotten away with it but America is not going to let it happen again. The fallout would signal the end of any and all effectiveness the Obama administration for the remaining years of his presidency. And history would place him with the likes of war criminals like George W. Bush and dikk Cheney. Let me repeat this. Obama is not that stupid!

So why then does our president appear to be beating the drums of war? The simple answer is he is now regarded as a hawkish leader before the US and the world. And he does so without having to fire a shot. He appears wholeheartedly in favor of a strike and is playing the part well. The hawk stands upon his perch without lifting a talon as Congress now takes any and all responsibility for lack of action on the part of the US. And during this entire debacle, he even manages to make republicans come out as anti-war; something even no one thought possible only a month ago.

If this sounds like an improbable scenario I ask that you to ponder for a moment the potential outcome:

No war
Obama and America look strong and world leaders should not doubt Obama’s willingness to take action
Congress was made to do their job
Congress will take the responsibility of inaction
Republicans have to pretend they are anti-war
Americans comes out against any further wars thereby providing the beginning of the end to our perpetual war
Puts pressure on the UN to take other action
Suddenly the UN is eager to accept other harsh non-military actions against Syria

And there is even the added bonus that the GOP weakening the push to shut down the government over the debt ceiling will not proceed with the intense battle anticipated. Next week Congress returns for only nine days. Nine days to act on the Syrian War, the debt ceiling, immigration, the Voting Rights Acts and many other important issues.

Seeing they can barely rename a post office, Congress will not have the ability to once again play games with by demanding cuts and further tax cuts for corporations. It will have to accept a reasonable offer or be blamed for damage to our nation’s credit rating. Republicans are very aware they will face blame and backlash should this happen.

Tell me this isn’t the best outcome ever. And I honestly think this was Obama’s intention from the beginning. You know damn well if he didn’t do anything, Republicans would be calling him weak because of the corner he had painted himself in when he talked about the red line.

Granted, Obama made a mistake with his “red line” comment, but by acting in a calm savvy manner, he can come out looking the part of the tough guy without even taking a swing. And he smiles as Congress does for him what he wanted in the first place.
If America could just set down their pitchforks and torches for a moment, they would be able to see what brilliant strategy this is..
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FAH1223 wrote:Obama is going to strike once Congress says no.

OR

http://freakoutnation.blogspot.com/2013 ... o.html?m=1
As the media interprets recent events as Obama’s march to war, America and the world falls for it hook, line and sinker. Say what you want about Obama but he is a very smart man. He would never ask permission he did not need from Congress to launch a strike on Syria unless he knew beyond a doubt he could get it. That is if his real intentions were to actually carry out military operations. But why on earth does it appear he wants this war?


After agonizing over this question over and over I began to realize there is only one logical explanation. He does not. Only a month ago the GOP was accusing Obama of being weak for not acting when the “red line” was crossed. There was pressure for him not only from the US but from the world as well. The reputation of the great American defender was on the line. Still it was obvious at the time Obama did not want to rush into another quagmire, bogging down the rest of his tenure as our nation’s leader. But the evidence kept rolling in. He had to do something not only for his reputation as a world leader but for the United States as well.

Cue the British Parliament to provide Obama with the perfect out. Just days after Britain’s governing body eliminated any joint action with the US to participate in a coalition to strike the Assad regime, Obama made a surprising and decisive move. Against the advice of all his advisors, he put any US participation in the hands of our do-nothing Congress with no chance they would give him the approval he needed. Not because it isn’t the right thing to do but because Obama was asking for it. The outcome is a given if you just take a step back and look at the situation rationally. And there is no way Obama is going to launch this attack once Congress says no. It would be political suicide. Bush may have gotten away with it but America is not going to let it happen again. The fallout would signal the end of any and all effectiveness the Obama administration for the remaining years of his presidency. And history would place him with the likes of war criminals like George W. Bush and dikk Cheney. Let me repeat this. Obama is not that stupid!

So why then does our president appear to be beating the drums of war? The simple answer is he is now regarded as a hawkish leader before the US and the world. And he does so without having to fire a shot. He appears wholeheartedly in favor of a strike and is playing the part well. The hawk stands upon his perch without lifting a talon as Congress now takes any and all responsibility for lack of action on the part of the US. And during this entire debacle, he even manages to make republicans come out as anti-war; something even no one thought possible only a month ago.

If this sounds like an improbable scenario I ask that you to ponder for a moment the potential outcome:

No war
Obama and America look strong and world leaders should not doubt Obama’s willingness to take action
Congress was made to do their job
Congress will take the responsibility of inaction
Republicans have to pretend they are anti-war
Americans comes out against any further wars thereby providing the beginning of the end to our perpetual war
Puts pressure on the UN to take other action
Suddenly the UN is eager to accept other harsh non-military actions against Syria

And there is even the added bonus that the GOP weakening the push to shut down the government over the debt ceiling will not proceed with the intense battle anticipated. Next week Congress returns for only nine days. Nine days to act on the Syrian War, the debt ceiling, immigration, the Voting Rights Acts and many other important issues.

Seeing they can barely rename a post office, Congress will not have the ability to once again play games with by demanding cuts and further tax cuts for corporations. It will have to accept a reasonable offer or be blamed for damage to our nation’s credit rating. Republicans are very aware they will face blame and backlash should this happen.

Tell me this isn’t the best outcome ever. And I honestly think this was Obama’s intention from the beginning. You know damn well if he didn’t do anything, Republicans would be calling him weak because of the corner he had painted himself in when he talked about the red line.

Granted, Obama made a mistake with his “red line” comment, but by acting in a calm savvy manner, he can come out looking the part of the tough guy without even taking a swing. And he smiles as Congress does for him what he wanted in the first place.
If America could just set down their pitchforks and torches for a moment, they would be able to see what brilliant strategy this is..
Pretty much my assumption to begin with. This seems like perfect political maneuvering by Obama. He kills two birds with one stone; 1)he unites congress against him so they scramble for responsibility for inaction and 2) he scares Assad sufficiently enough that makes him compliant to "UN" ultimatums and come to a more diplomatic resolution for this war.
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so it looks like Syria accepts Russia's proposal to get rid of the chemical weapons :russ:
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The diplomacy. :wow: The way Obama saved face. The way Putin stepped up. 10/10
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FAH1223 wrote:so it looks like Syria accepts Russia's proposal to get rid of the chemical weapons :russ:
Good luck to getting them to disarm fully. Assad's alleged use is quite brilliant. He assures his base that he is willing to go the distance and will not flee. He has shored up his base with that. He also sent a signal to his enemies that if pushed to the corner he will use them. The minute he gives them up is when he signs his death warrant.
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AbdiWahab252 wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:so it looks like Syria accepts Russia's proposal to get rid of the chemical weapons :russ:
Good luck to getting them to disarm fully. Assad's alleged use is quite brilliant. He assures his base that he is willing to go the distance and will not flee. He has shored up his base with that. He also sent a signal to his enemies that if pushed to the corner he will use them. The minute he gives them up is when he signs his death warrant.
I think while they're busy with disarmament rebel be would be flashed out :?:
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Bashar is dumb for not listening to his father's advisers who warned him against bringing in the internet
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How can you ppl align yourself with an oppressor that gassed his ppl. And no one is stupid the Fsa need arms. They don't have the luxury of choosing help. But they know that along with al- kalb, israel and US are their enemies.
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