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[DR-YALAXOOW]

abdi johnson have every right to be what ever he likes as long as he respects what other people Believe which he does.. everage Agnostic person actually have higher IQ than very religios people. religios i mean not only Islam but all religion..

[hargaysaay]

Menace, I don't believe in organized religion. I am agnostic

Hargaasay, why does a mass murderer and rapist born by chance in the right religion eventually go to heaven but a person who was born in the wrong religion and never got exposed to the right religion but dedicated to helping orphans and never did a wrong thing go to hell for eternity?

People born in the right religion who didnt even practise go to heaven eventually because they are still part of the religion if they didnt renounce it

It has nothing to do with being enlightened. I am humble. These are questions any human being should be asking. You have a brain. Use it

I am,

Abdi "I am not conceited" Johnson

A murderer and a rapist will get what he deserves on the DAY OF JUDGMENT .

a person who was born in the wrong religion and never got exposed to the right religion but dedicated to helping orphans and never did a wrong thing go to hell for eternity

I have people and friends in my life who are christians and it hits me sometimes getting me wonder and I ask myself how can these extremely nice people
end up in hell for eternity , and it discomforts me really . and then I console myself with their belief in the existence of God .
My common sense tells me that if you believe in God and pray to him and believe in the Day of Judgment and you lead a good life . you might have a chance
in entering heaven .

for instance what about the people who lived in modern day America in 750 , who probably were not exposed to Islam , will they be sent to hell for
not knowing that Mohamed was Gods Messenger . i beleive thats not case and that so long as anyone admits Gods existence we all have a shot at paradise .

I appreciate and hold Independent thinking in high esteem . but i won't let it corrupt my belief system and the things I value .
what good is an independent thinking if its the kind that jumps you on the Homo-bandwagon .

[AbdiJohnson]

The punishment of a murderer and rapist from the right religion who doesn't even practice is much softer than a person born in the wrong religion, wasn't exposed to the right religion at all and dedicated his whole life to the poor and orphans. The first guy goes to hell temporary for his crimes but eventually goes to heaven because he was born by chance in the right religion. The second guy is in hell forever. This is what makes religion evil

Only Muslims and the practicising Jews/Christians from before Islam go to heaven according to Islam. Only Christians go to heaven in Christianity and the Jews don't believe in a hell.

Forget about biblical times. I am talking about now, 2013. Billions are not exposed to the right religion. Many are rural farmers far from cities, some are in cities only filled with one religion, one may have missed the bus where they could of met someone who could have told them the right religion

Billions of people were never exposed to the right religion. Why should they go to hell for something they weren't exposed to?

This is my issue and you are a coward attacking my opinion. Its a valid question


I am,

Abdi "I'm Done" Johnson

[saacJabshee]

for instance what about the people who lived in modern day America in 750 , who probably were not exposed to Islam , will they be sent to hell for
not knowing that Mohamed was Gods Messenger . i beleive thats not case and that so long as anyone admits Gods existence we all have a shot at paradise .

Hargaysaay bro I always thought of this aswell. Allah is just end of the day and he will take into consideration what you was exposed to at the time you lived. Allah is merciful

[hargaysaay]

AbdiJohnson--I think you are missing the point , I am not here to defend Islam but promote that believing in gods Existence is the single most important
thing in this entire universe and the life that exists on it .

Gods mercy is always greater than his Punishment ...thats my Logo .

[AbdiJohnson]

Then all of China, all of India, all of Scandinavia, all of Japan, all of South America, all of the Koreas, and the majority of nations who got no exposure to the right faith will get Gods mercy and be allowed to enter heaven?

No they won't. They are condemned to hell. This is their destiny. This is written in religious scriptures.

We know heaven will be almost empty and hell will contain the vast majority of humans ever lived. This is taught in the Abrahamic religions

I am,

Abdi "Anyways I'm Off" Johnson

[saacJabshee]

Then if you believe this why dont you repent and join islam again? why would you walk into fire?

[GIJaamac]

hargaysaay, abdijohnson saacjabshe

The answer to your question

Praise be to Allaah.

It is part of the justice of Allaah that He does not punish any people until He has first sent a warning to them and unless there is evidence against them. Allaah does not treat anybody unfairly. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “… And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning).” [al-Israa’ 17:15].

In his tafseer (commentary) on this aayah, Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “These words, ‘…And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning)’ tell us of the justice of Allaah, may He be exalted, and that He does not punish anyone until after He has established evidence against him by sending a Messenger to him. This is like the aayat (interpretation of the meaning): ‘… Every time a group is cast therein [into Hell], its keeper will ask, “Did no warner come to you?” They will say, “Yes indeed; a warner did come to us, but we belied him and said: ‘Allaah never sent down anything (of revelation), you are only in great error.’”’ [al-Mulk 67:8] and: ‘And those who disbelieved will be driven to Hell in groups, till, when they reach it, the gates thereof will be opened (suddenly like a prison at the arrival of its prisoners). And its keepers will say, “Did not the Messengers come to you from yourselves, - reciting to you the Verses of your Lord, and warning you of the Meeting of this Day of yours?” They will say: “Yes, but the Word of torment has been justified against the disbelievers!”’ [al-Zumar 39:71]…”

A person who has never heard of Islam or the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and who has never heard the message in its correct and true form, will not be punished by Allaah if he dies in a state of kufr (disbelief). If it were asked what his fate will be, the answer will be that Allaah will test him on the Day of Resurrection: if he obeys, he will enter Paradise and if he disobeys he will enter Hell. The evidence (daleel) for this is the hadeeth of al-Aswad ibn Saree’, who reported that the Prophet of Allaah SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There are four (who will protest) to Allaah on the Day of Resurrection: the deaf man who never heard anything, the insane man, the very old man, and the man who died during the fatrah (the interval between the time of ‘Eesaa (Jesus, upon whom be peace) and the time of Muhammad SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)). The deaf man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but I never heard anything.’ The insane man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but the children ran after me and threw stones at me.’ The very old man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but I did not understand anything.’ The man who died during the fatrah will say, ‘O Lord, no Messenger from You came to me.’ He will accept their promises of obedience, then word will be sent to them to enter the Fire. By the One in Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, if they enter it, it will be cool and safe for them.”

According to another report, he said: “Whoever enters it, it will be cool and safe for him, and whoever does not enter it will be dragged to it.” (The hadeeth was reported by Imaam Ahmad and Ibn Hibbaan, and deemed saheeh by al-Albaani, Saheeh al-Jaami’, 881).

Everyone who hears the message of Islam in a sound and correct form (and rejects it), will have evidence aginst him. Whoever dies without having heard the message, or having heard it in a distorted form, then his case is in the hands of Allaah. Allaah knows best about His creation, and He will never treat anyone unfairly. And Allaah is All-Seer of His slaves.
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