Supreme Court Chief Ilko Xanaf: Pres wrong, PM true power

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President's role is to shake hands and to do shirib. Nothing more, nothing less. Screw him.
PM must sack the old fat turtle. :up:
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DarthSomali wrote:President's role is to shake hands and to do shirib. Nothing more, nothing less. Screw him.
PM must sack the old fat turtle. :up:
nigga mog is hawiye land :lol: saacid will get his ass whooped back to gedo if needs be
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Horta is darth somali hutuking or Grandpa :?
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i dont think its hutuking
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Perfect_Order wrote:Horta is darth somali hutuking or Grandpa :?

Its AhluHututBayt yes 100% judging the IP address, style and signature
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LeJusticier wrote:
Perfect_Order wrote:Horta is darth somali hutuking or Grandpa :?

Its AhluHututBayt yes 100% judging the IP address, style and signature
Maxaas ku dabe dhigay hutuking. Ruufiyaan maas tahay mise xalwo aa rabta.

Ip address aa dayey. Ma masersan tehay.
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LeJusticier wrote:
Perfect_Order wrote:Horta is darth somali hutuking or Grandpa :?

Its AhluHututBayt yes 100% judging the IP address, style and signature

ahluhutubayt is cannibalist :pacspit:
grand is cannibalist terrorist :pacspit:
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BigBreak wrote:
DarthSomali wrote:President's role is to shake hands and to do shirib. Nothing more, nothing less. Screw him.
PM must sack the old fat turtle. :up:
nigga mog is hawiye land :lol: saacid will get his ass whooped back to gedo if needs be

This is MOG:

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The`Republic wrote:Hey Twist, how is it going bro?

I think we have had three discussions on this issue even before the current government, so it is pointless to rehash. My understanding is we have different interpretations of the constitution.

If you lool at the Supreme Court Chief, he actually supports the argument that I have always held---the President is a symbolic figurehead and the Prime Minister is the legally empowered executive.

Obviously he agreed with me in the context of highlighting an ambiguity and a friction point but the agreement is unmistakable. Lile you noticed, he said in the NORMATIVE PROCESS the PM is the head of the largest party or coalition in Parliament without even needing President to volunteer.

But in our process without formed political parties, the President is given the power to name a PM----who then turns out to be more constitutionally empowered than the man who named him. Ilka Xanaf is saying this has proven to be a serious disconnect with a way a third world society views things.

Regardless, that is our current reality as is in the form of our current constitution which the current President, Parliament, and political dispensation run on.

I mean even here the President asked PM to resign because the President could not get his voice in new cabinet being drafted by an increasingly assertive PM.

The President has no legal recourse to get what he wants UNLESS he is on goodwill with the one legally exercising those executive duties.
As I said, you are selectively reading. But the guy in question did not say what you are suggesting. The president is the elected guy not the PM. He's the ultimate power in government.
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Twisted, that's stubbornness a little too far.

Anybody who wants to can watch that video AND read how every single Somali website interpreted it.
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its ludicrous that a president (head of state) of a war torn country be a ceremonial figure, what would it mean if while somalia burns the president instead of solving the problem can only shake hands, cut ribbons and give out candy

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It is a Parliamentary democracy. .all th Heads of State are figurheads.

The President of Ethiopia, the President of Turkey, the Queen of England, the Governor-General of Canada, the Governor General of Australia, the Emporer of Japan.

Those are all Heads of State in those Parliamentary democracies and they are all figureheads with symbolic authority to represent the unity and defense of their nations.

Executive power belongs to the Head of Government which are the Prime Minister of Ethiopia, the Prime Minister of Turkey, the Prime Minister of UK, the Prime Minister ot Canada, the Prime Minister of Australia, the Prime Minister of Japan.

This is thr form of government we took but we are not mature enough or developed enough to follow through.
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the republic

is it right that for somalia someone who is president gets paid for doing virtually nothing? powerless politicians of any rank let alone a head of state is rather insulting and get paid still lol. they are no different from welfare recepients

scrap the pm post and have a presidential system i say
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